Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Wake me up when we get to the good part
Talthazar wrote:
the graphics seem a bit cartoonish for me and I've never really been drawn to that in an MMO. Just seems it would kill immersion for me, but that's just a personal preference.
I have a guildmate that is beta testing WoW.
From what he tells me the game sucks.
The graphics are cartoon-like and there isnt the ability to customize your character like there is in SOE... Something about SOE has taken the time to use different art work for the graphics (time intensive) while WoW recycles a lot of the art to same time (quicker).
I'm trying to remember everything he told me... It was a few weeks ago when we had the conversation and it was late at night...
Anyhow, if I think of more of the conversation I'll let yall know but I can tell you afterwards I was like, "blah".
I'm not saying to anyone here that the game wont be fun for some... But I will say, despite all the bugs here, SOE has really raised the bar... Part of the reason why thereare so many bugs in this game is, in a lot of ways,SOE isdoing things other MMORPGs just havent done or were able to do.
Yes, there are areas that need improvement but overall I think a lot of people who have been playing SWG for a few weeks/months are going to feel like they just took a few steps down.
For me, I'll keep an open mind and give it a test run... So is my guildmate... He is not, nor I, against WoW... But again, I think there is perhaps a little too much hype...
Besides, how many more "swords and magic" games can some of us take? The Sci-Fi setting of SWG is a very welcome break from the same ol' same ol' of all the D&D style MMORPGs out there IMHO 
Message Edited by SomeUser on 05-22-2004 06:34 PM
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c00kie wrote:
I am not saying there won't be bugs... but I am saying my faith in Blizzard is that it will be free of gameplay bugs that make the game unplayable. Blizzard has a great trackrecord, even with online games.... They take a lot of time to develop and TEST good software before releasing it. Something that thus far, SOE hasn't done. WoW hasa lot of hype, b/c Blizzard has a big base of loyal customers, that know what to expect. And honestly if Blizzard fails to follow through... they will lose a ton of respect with Hardcore gamers, something they don't want to do.
. space expansion for SWG doesnt intrest me at all , maybe if jedi changes happened sooner i would have tried that but cant be bothered now . Enjoyed the game alot while i was playing it , thats because i was running a business , always found the combat in this game was crap . I too wish they had fixed things instead of adding more content. just to chime in on the "WoW Hype".
I too think WoW looks way too saturday morning cartoonish. plus I just got done playing EQ a year ago, dont really want to go back to ogres and trolls and dwarfs. =)
and your posts were always worth reading Tal-N, look forward to more if CoH or WoW turns sour.
I started out working toward weaponsmith, then came the Factory XP nerf (many alternate solutions presented and never responded to, actually even reveived denial of knowledge of thread by one who started the thread), so in not wanting to grind crafting, i switched to CH. I have been master CH since (after checking some of my old posts) late september, shortly after the first major nerfs hit the class, as they made me realize it was the same old SOE from EQ and I had better get ahead quick. As a MCH for all this time I'm sure you all know the nerfing I've been through with that class. Then shortly after the "BE Revamp", I decided to take one of my other character slots and build a BE. Since then I have mastered and enjoyed the class greatly, but am still plagued by the same issues (bugs, further nerfing, general SOE BS). I then decided I wanted to get my Jedi slot, and almost as soon as I make the decision, SOE announces they're nerfing the known path as well. Now with yet more recent news, soon as a BE, I will no longer be able to have vendors of my own (that I put in the effort and skill pts to get and have been paying for).
Now as of today, I stopped playing SWG over a month ago when I received a free trial as a former beta tester to return to the game Eve-online. Granted that game still has it's issues and bugs, but they have shown they actually try, and with a much more limited base of income than SOE, I think CCP is doing a hell of a job. The only reason why I didn't continue playing that game once it went live was because I had already been waiting for SWG for 3 years and it was just being released a month or so after beta ended for Eve and I could only afford one MMOG. So now I'm spending my time there, and unless SOE wakes up and smells the player base, they can kiss my monthly payment goodbye, and not expect any further income from me because between what they did to EQ, and how they are completely ruining SWG, I do not see me every playing another game from them.
At this point it looks like I'm out of SOE's "vision" because they keep proving they are clueless. Although I have thoroughly enjoyed games by Blizzard, I don't know if I will be going to WoW as (as others have stated) the cartooniness (new word I think), but knowing Blizzard as being a group who does have a clue, I imagine that game will be pretty dang good. I think I'll stick with Eve for awhile as it is about the closest to what Freelancer was supposed to be (read: Privateer online) as can be found right now, and the game seems to be having some really good things coming for it. With SWG, unless the SE totally rocks and SOE get's their heads out of their asses about the rest of the game, I'm out.
I guess the biggest example I can come up with about why MMOG like SWG are doomed for me, is that they want the same crowd as The Sims. Instead of the "true gamers", they want everybody else. I don't know if that even makes sense. All I can say is that I tried the Sims, and after a highlight of putting a few neighbors in an outhouse and removing the door for a few days, the game totally sucked....yet it has been an incredible "success" with countless expansions and even moved online. Between that and losing companies like Janes Combat Simulations, it seems "true gamers" are becoming more limited every year.
Oh well, now I guess I'm just rambling. One more Jack-n-DrPepper and I'm going to sleep.
Fare the well all
GuardianHawk wrote:
I have news for you, you are too late, must have slept right through the good part.
Yes we have the good part and you didn't even notice.
Deleted other assorted nonsense.
Hey there. Nice first post in the BE forums. Since you don't know Tal-N how do you know he doesn't have friends (do you have friends?). How do you know he's not in a PA?
Now, instead of coming here and replying to a post of someone you don't even know, in a profession you aren't a part of, why don't you take your ignorant self and go back to the Doctor forums and practice having your prostate examined. I'm sure that will be much more fun for yourself than posting here and getting it examined the hard way.
ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
I've seen demos of COH and to me, wow, what crappy graphics and unappealing lookinggameplay. I give em credit for trying to make a game that is that much off-center, but yikes, looks kind of embarrasingly bad. Maybe I'd feel differently if I actually played it but I don't think I'll be spending all that money just to find out.
I'll definitely be giving WOW a try though. I was SO dissappointed that I was not chosen for their early Beta
but I guess they're opening up their beta before long.
My son, who gave up SWG because of frustration over the continuous NERFbat being the only manner in which management was able to deal with anything, started playing CoH and Planetside.
Planetside is beyond terrible to me. The control are completely unnatural and the cameras are almost useless. Quake 3 was better than this.
CoH was decent, but quickly ran out of any content that interested me within 6 hours.
However, 3 requests for help produced a CSR in CoH within 5 to 10 minutes, even at 11pm PST at night. I was shocked, stunned and amazed! Not only that, the CSRs knew what they were talking about! They definitely have customer service far beyond SOE.