Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: DNA Sampling
Novice - CL12
DNA 1 - CL 23
DNA 2 - CL 34
DNA 3 - CL 45
DNA 4 - CL 56
Master - CL 75
That cap of 75 for the sampling level is actually for a master BE. There is a different cap for all the DNA Sampling levels up the tree. I don't know what they are tho 
I expect it's probably that that you are dealing with there.
We really need to be able to Sample from creatures with a higher CL than 75. If they increased it by just 10 CL (to a max of CL 85), we could go out hunting with our friends and Sample from the mission creatures.
JacolbyDamon wrote:
You know what? We were hunting Rancors when I tried to get my sample and I did not even think to look at the lvl. The same goes for the Bols and Pikets. Now that I think about it, I know the Bols/Pikets were lvl 80+.
I feel sheepish...
Is this normal? I've always been interested in BE, and heard that it used to be an epic struggle getting mutant rancor DNA, etc. -- but I didn't expect it to be quite this rough on non-aggro creatures post CU, lol. Am I missing something?
Also, does sampling from mission creatures with different level than natural spawns result in different stats on the DNA?
LecheHombre wrote:
I'm pretty new to BE, and I used a respec to come in (equips flame retardant underwear). I'm sitting at 4044 BE, and the game *allows* me to sample CL75 creatures (trying with malklocs as we speak), but my success rate is extremely low. With Kwis (level 65) yesterday, I got 1 sample in about 30 mins of sampling as fast as my mind could regen. A critical failure drawing aggro was *much* more common than a success.
Is this normal? I've always been interested in BE, and heard that it used to be an epic struggle getting mutant rancor DNA, etc. -- but I didn't expect it to be quite this rough on non-aggro creatures post CU, lol. Am I missing something?
Also, does sampling from mission creatures with different level than natural spawns result in different stats on the DNA?
Yes this is very normal, expecially post CU, before CU i could constantly sample rancors for hours withvery little fails and only maybe 1 or 2 aggros and more if i forget about reusing mask scent, but now on aggressive creatures i tend to get aggro'd on average 1 out of 4 samples and fail usually 3 out of 4 samples
Maisland wrote:
We really need to be able to Sample from creatures with a higher CL than 75. If they increased it by just 10 CL (to a max of CL 85), we could go out hunting with our friends and Sample from the mission creatures.
JacolbyDamon wrote:
You know what? We were hunting Rancors when I tried to get my sample and I did not even think to look at the lvl. The same goes for the Bols and Pikets. Now that I think about it, I know the Bols/Pikets were lvl 80+.
I feel sheepish...
JeffroTGIF wrote:
ok, im a Master BE with a combat level of 34.........he is my crafter.......well since the CU i cant seem to sample anything 'above' me. I used to be able to sample rancors...and now....well i get chewed up. I tried some level 71 klicks on Yavin and i failed 4 times before i got killed... im a master and i fail 4 times, whats wrong with that
The sampling fails seemed to have increased and not only for the higher CLs. I'm only a combat level 18 but I manage to sample from the CL70-75 range although I do not believe that our success percentage has increased (pre-CU it was a 5% chance of success at CL75 if I'm not mistaken) and I fail more times than I succeed.
I cannot sample certain creatures when out on my own, Baz Nitch for example aggro me instantly, but that doesn't stop me from trying and eventually I'll hit that 5%.
I tried to sample kliks on Yavin last night and got slain and incapped multiple times for my efforts. Got ONE sample in about 3 hours. I was grouped with a level 80 for damage mitigation, etc. They are aggressive (the kliks not my groupies). It was very frustrating. I haven't had so many problems on dathomir and will probably go back there - doesn't seem to be anything special about klik DNA to be honest.
I did however, did get an offer for help from a chivilrous level 80 BH - was very funny. I was sampling a lurking spider and comes up and says:
BH: 'Nice pet'
me: 'thanks but it's not a pet it's wild'
BH: 'how come it's factioned then?'
me: 'oh well they do that when you sample 'em ... look'
BH:'oh ... well it stays factioned for me after you stop (I was trying to show him how it went off and on)'
me:'hmmm...well i'm just hoping it doesn't kill me'
BH: 'ok so that's not a pet?'
me: 'no I'm a BE sampling DNA not a CH'
BH: 'ok.....(pause)'
BH: 'and you're a woman'
me: 'um ... yes'
BH: '(pause) ... so do you want help with sampling?'
me: 'well thanks but it's best done alone actually but thank you very much for your offer'
BH: 'oh ok ... I gotta go kill my mark then ... cya'
LecheHombre wrote:
I'm pretty new to BE, and I used a respec to come in (equips flame retardant underwear). I'm sitting at 4044 BE, and the game *allows* me to sample CL75 creatures (trying with malklocs as we speak), but my success rate is extremely low. With Kwis (level 65) yesterday, I got 1 sample in about 30 mins of sampling as fast as my mind could regen. A critical failure drawing aggro was *much* more common than a success.
Is this normal? I've always been interested in BE, and heard that it used to be an epic struggle getting mutant rancor DNA, etc. -- but I didn't expect it to be quite this rough on non-aggro creatures post CU, lol. Am I missing something?
Also, does sampling from mission creatures with different level than natural spawns result in different stats on the DNA?
Message Edited by Kivrin on 06-28-2005 12:02 PM
Kivrin .... sitting down doesn't work for b'nari when the animal walks away from her
Dor
*shrug* I guess it's all relative to how / what you're sampling. I find it works against high CL critters that fail a good amount or mid-CL ones that you can get 5+ samples off of. Doing a lot of sampling, like pre-CU MH static spawn, I get the, "You are too tired to sample" message slowing me down the most. I keep both the vanilla sample button and the mind-friendly macro one on the tool bar and play it by ear.
Message Edited by Kivrin on 06-29-2005 08:11 AM