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Thread: Vehicle Customization: Should it be for Master Artisans to perform or for anyone and everyone?

Hero_DarkJedi
Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:47 pm
#79

Greets ...


Master Artisan Only ...


Anything else and the MA will not be in demand.






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Tharryth
Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:47 pm
#80

#2 - sell sell. After all I'm a master artisan not a Auto Detailer



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Boeda
Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:55 pm
#81

I dont think i've ever before seen, such an (almost) unanimous thread.


Of course make it anyone can use them. And make Droid kits usable by all as well. Furthermore make both 'paint jobs' last longer. Try 100 count. or choose some other scheam of ware. maby at 75% damage or whatever. Even make it permanent if you want.


Im a DE and I do occaisianally paint customers droids on sale. But its pretty futile. The jobs on my own droids wear off so often I usually dont bother to repaint them. Let alone go hunting for someone else to.


I havnt/wouldnt charge for a paint job. And in any case, one could make more money selling kits if they were actually used more.





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Hopefulcrafter
Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:59 pm
#82

Vote here for #2


I've already had a few people ask about the kits and the general impression i got was for them to be able to achieve this themselves, painting them that is. I have no problem with providing a product that has a few charges, for frame and trim i assume like the DE one. It would generate a fairly decent market, and soon people will have the ability to have 1 of each vehicle in their datapad? Oh ya let the sales begin


As for what TH as said about the DE kit......well i think i understand this from a point of view and will make an assumption/opinion here....


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I think it has to do with the general coding involved. Where as an item that is allowed for general use and does not require placing within skill trees and other such checks. The coding will allow its self to be tweaked according for everyone, in other words easy to play with and adjust. But when it comes to something requiring specific check, e.g. the DE custom kit, it alreadys involves certain checks with in the code that may no be very easy to remove and may cause some inherit problems or worse bugs. Its formed itself to a ridged structure that has evolved one might say. It maybe able to be done but could be time consuming and costly. So if the vehicle kit gets changed like the DE one it might be impossible to change it back without major work. Granted I'm not a programmer and I don't understand if this can happen, but I have the opinion it might.


But were it comes to the length of time the paint job lasts that might be easliy adjustable within the parameters, and TH said it would be looked into to increase the time for a droids paint job, hope it does work.


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AudioOrgana
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:21 am
#83


It should remain as is, but PLEASE :


Give us a "view without changes" "view with changes" menu, like ID's have.


Both vehicle customization and droid customization needs this.


I cannot tell you how hard it is when I'm offering to color a droid (which I usually do for free), and someone asks, "What colors do you have?"


Having 60-70 colors on some droids is great - but not being able to give examples without using resources and relying on verbal descriptions of color (green, like Kermit the frog on a bad day...) is just barbaric.


This isn't a "please look into it in a few months" issue - it's a big deal, and is going to be the difference from this being fun and enjoyable for everyone, or a pain in the butt that no one wants to bother with.


Audio


Skedoozy
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:58 am
#84






Hero_DarkJedi wrote:

Greets ...


Master Artisan Only ...


Anything else and the MA will not be in demand.








A Master Artisan still has to make the tool. But if you want to lose all your business in a month because no one is going to bother having to find a master artisan to USE that tool, and not just buy it and use it themself, then more power to ya.



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meroc
Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:20 am
#85

I'm not an MA, but if I have to go seeking Y.A.S (yet another service) I don't think I'll bother, I'd probably get it painted once or twice (for the novelty), but after that I wouldn't bother.


If, on the other hand, it was a kit I'd probably keep one or two around and touch the ol' swoop up to match the occasion....white for weddings, green for "sneaking".....red for racing (cause it'd go faster ;o))



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Xx_Predator_xX
Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:42 am
#86

2



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IgescaStorm
Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:50 am
#87

#2 !!



I think, the devs can clearly see, at least 95% of the player want Nr 2...






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IgescaStorm
Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:53 am
#88






Ogeda wrote:
#2, and hope that the end product will show what type of quality of the resource use for crafting the tool example, more charges when high quality resource being use or the paint last longer when high quality resource use.





YES!!!! A very good idea!!!!! Please make it soooooo!




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spearbearer
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:03 am
#89

I'l take envelope 2.



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KGJV
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:03 am
#90


#2


Or why not add the customization tool as an optionnal component to vehicule schematics ?


This way MA wont have to bother selling them as a standalone tool (less pain to maintain their vendor(s) filled with tools).


Then have "customizable vehicles" (the ones crafted with an optionnal customization tool in the final assembly) colorizable in garages by the owner by using an option in the radial menu (like the current temporary menu on composite armors). A fee, like for repairing, can be asked to provide another money sink.







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Rrowlacca
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:29 am
#91

I have an alt that is a master artisan and I don't want it bothered to color vehicles as it's a crafter alt wtih some combat skills.


I vote for number 2, kit usable by anyone. On top of that, make the droid customization kit usable by anyone too. I'm sure it's the same peice of code.


Make it like droids, 20 times pulling out the vehicle and it reverts.


Something inexpensive like this that a MA can craft isn't going to be 'monopolized' as you say TH. Any crafter can load up the bazaar with factory runs of these, competition is good for the economy and when all of them are at about the same price the chance of buying them from one crafter is just as random as another.


And who really uses the bazaar anyway? I use the planetary map to find vendors, bike to them, and buy all my goods there. Bazaar is usually nothing but junk and small lots of resources with its 3k cap.
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