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Thread: Vehicle Customization: Should it be for Master Artisans to perform or for anyone and everyone?

MayRee
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:03 pm
#53





Post from TH:





neinnunb wrote:






Thunderheart wrote:



This decision keeps options open. If we test it for a month or so and it doesnt work well, then we switch it.






Can you reverse then the DE coloring tool? because allot of people hate to seek a droid engineer for that already.



Cant be taken out, but Im pushing to get the length of time extended





Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Assistant Community Relations Manager



okay a little concerned here. You are asking us what we would prefer and you say that we can flip the switch at anytime if it doesn't work. This person asked if it can be taken out for DE and you say simply it can't with no explination why. If only artisans can do it then artisan will constantly have people sendingus /tell to have their bikes colored. If we do go with option #1 itwillonly allow master artisans to change the color. What happens if we decide that it is not working for us?Are we going to receive this same response? Please clarify your reasoning that the change cannot be made for DE, and how it will be different for the bikes.


Thanks,





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StarchMonkey
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:05 pm
#54

I've been a Master Artisan since August... I vote for an expendable tool. Here is why:


I know of no one who is a Master Artisan and not a Master Elite profession, or at least working on one. Keeping up with Armorsmith is enough without having to tell people constantly "No I don't have time to color your vehicle". It makes me feel snobby and it just makes for a bad experience IMO. I would hate to loose an armor customer because I had to tell someone that I couldn't color their landspeeder. Plus you have to go through all the "this is what is available" spiel because almost no one knows what colors are available. Its a huge time sink.


Again, ALL items that can be colored should be done by the client. When I tell someone you can have "dark blue" composite, what I see and what they think are usually totally different. Without giving people the ability to SEE what they are getting, it turns a simple idea into something tedious.


PLEASE make coloring of vehicles, armor, clothes a client function. We all know it can be done because of what you did with the composite colors. That is an IDEAL solution.





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Meplorium
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:10 pm
#55

As a master artisan I can say if only master artisans can customize speeders, I'll need to dig a hole and hide in it. Btw, we need a shovel to dig holes now.


The tool craftable by MA that lets anyone customize their vechiles seems to be the perfect balance.





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duncje
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:12 pm
#56

If the interface is anything like coloring droids, I'm for #2.


As a Master DE and Master Artisan, coloring droids is really more trouble than it's worth. The person who owns the droid cannot see what colors are available, and trying to explain them is a royal pain in the backside. So you end up burning multiple charges from a customization tool, because they want to see what the colors look like.


I'd think you'd actually sell more tools under option 2, than if you were to haveoption 1, because then you have to search out a MA to get him/her to color the bike for you. And because it's more convenient, people will probably color their vehicles more. Right now, when the colors wear off droids, people just tend to leave them, and not bother recoloring.





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Skedoozy
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:23 pm
#57

#2


Why? Ask DE's how many people seek out Droid Customization. And even if it was popular I don't want to spend my days painting vehicles when I have to make so many other things. Having to tell a customer you are too busy to paint their Swoop = p.o.'d customer.



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jbeck
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:31 pm
#58

#2


I think I'll have enough fun coloring my 3 vehicles the way I want them. I don't want to get stuck trying to guess what every other customer wantshis bike to look like.This will allow people to color theirvehicles as they like, when they like.


And thepaint kits aremost likely going to be under3k. (can't imagine paying more for a can of spraypaint) So the Mega vendor will not really be a worry, aspeople will most likely buy these kits on the bazaar.




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MallocErr
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:33 pm
#59

So you need a crafted tool, a Master Artisan, and the color change is temporary?


Well, you'll certainly prevent some enterprising Master Artisans from cornering the market on painting vehicles. There won't BEa market.


And, using the same logic, a Smuggler should have to adminster spice to people. And a Chef should have to spoon-feed people themselves. Otherwise, market forces would dictate the price of consumables. God forbid. The explanation offered as to the rationale behind the decision is so flimsy and so inconsistent with other game mechanics that it forces my inherent paranoia to wonder about the real explanation.


I certainly am not going to repeatedly waste my time on a cosmetic variation on something that remains functionally equivalent without it. I might do it ONCE, but periodically?The clue phone is ringlng. Ok, I'll get it then.


Malloc
StarRunner
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:41 pm
#60

Because there is no way for the player to see what colors are available and what it will look like youshould give it to the player. As a master artisan I do not want to spend an hour of my limited playtime going through every shade of blue til the customer gets what he was asking for, and then doing it again for the next player.


We already get to make the vehicles that no one else can make, plus having every droid engineer clamoring for parts that only we can make.And seeing as how people can have 3 of them in their datapads now I am quite happy to be getting nearly 100k from everyone . Having to customize every vehilce for every player is going to cut into the limited time that many of us have





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ASL
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:44 pm
#61

#2, i'm poor right now so i need the money



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ASL
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:45 pm
#62

whoops meant #1 (i'm not thinking tonight)



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The_Cabbage
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:51 pm
#63

There is always a chance that a small group of people will monopolize a product.


That said, as a consumer, I wouldn't mind going to an artisan to get him/her to customize it for me. It's more immersive, frankly, and not much of a bother anyway.




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DVader539
Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:53 pm
#64

#2



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CommanderFarley
Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:01 pm
#65

as a master artisan, I say let us build the kits and sell them for others to use. the extra item to sell is great for profits, but I don't want to stand in front of a garage 2 hours a day to make the money.



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