Artisan Archive

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RahKayne wrote:
Just ignore me

/bow head in shame and walk away

recap> time meant to defer everyone from being a jedi; that is why it takes long. You CHOOSE to become a jedi and to go through all that work. This doesnt endow you with uberness, or priority over other professions.

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huh?

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darkmeh wrote:

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Kelko wrote:

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darkmeh wrote:

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Kelko wrote:

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darkmeh wrote:

I suppose this issue is all based on opinion. Effort or monthly fee. We'd need an official DEV statement to understand what they intended. My opinion, though, is that we pay the monthly fee to compensate the DEVs for spending time to create updates and fixing bugs (they actually do, contrary to the belief of majority of the playerbase), and if you can't cope with the fact that certain professions currently get more attention than others (true or not), that the end-game goal for most people is Jedi, and that someone who grinded through more levels has more power than you, then you can cancel your account. Eventually, after JTL, the DEVs will begin to focus on the professions a lower amount of players have, and balance everything out. We'll just need patience.

Another opinion I have is that TheRetardFoundation made this post just to tick a few people off and start a little flaming and contradiction. He hasn't responded to the thread, so he's probably sitting back and having a laugh while people argue over a post he never intended to be constructive.

But just in case he is a newbie and not just using a new forum account, then I'll answer his very simple question.

"Why is it that any question to the jedi about why they think they deserve so much power equals to 'I had to grind for 6 months to get it?' "

Well, because they did. Spending 6 months in a game grinding through professions you didn't want to do deserves some recognition.

I'm done here. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, as that was not my intention.

/wave

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I disagree, the monthly fee is for the upkeep of the game servers and new content, etc. The patches and fixes is what we all paid for ahead of time when we purchased the game.

Once again I stick to my earlier statement. If they don't like having to spend 6 months grinding through professions they didn't want to then don't play Jedi. Don't come to the forums and goose step around stating that your six months of effort is any better or desrves better treatment than my six months of effort spent on a different profession. We all paid to play this game no matter what profession, and as such we all deserve the same respect, time, and energy from the devs, regardless of what profession we play.

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I'm posting one more time to clarify things...

By patches, I meant patching in of content, and by fixes, I also meant upkeep of servers.

I don't remember saying anything to contradict your statement about not playing Jedi if you don't like it. I just suggegested that if you really have high expectations for your profession, you should try to add some constructive ideas on your forum.

I never said that a Jedi's effort is more or less important or deserves more recognition. The professions should all get the same amount of attention, I agree. There is no DEV statement stating that they are focusing on Jedi which know of, however. Just because they had a patch for Jedi does not mean that the DEVs are focusing on them alone. No one really knows for sure.

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As far as that statement, It wasn't directed specifically at you.

As far as the Devs stating they are or are not focusing on Jedi, you need to go back and read all the announcments, specifically the ones where the Devs stated that the next 3 (?) major publishes will be devoted, for the most part, to the Jedi revamp. They also stated that the Jedi revamp would probably be the biggest of all the profession revamps because they were basically starting the profession over from scratch.

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There are only two major patches pertaining to Jedi. The Jedi revamp was the only one specifically affecting the Jedi profession. Patch 10 is changing the way to obtain Jedi, because the hologrind sucked. This may or may not increase the number of Jedi, it's uncertain. All that exists now is speculation on the matter. The elemination of the hologrind was definately for the better of the game, and not for Jedi, though.

Chefs and Bio-Engineers also got revamped, maybe not to such an extreme, but that doesn't really matter unless you want to start nit-picking. So unless you say they are only focusing on chefs, BEs, and Jedi, these patches are not valid in confirming that the DEVs have changed all of their focus to Jedi.

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That's funny, sounds like to me that changing the way Jedi is obtained means it is for the Jedi profession. It's certainly not affecting the other professions. And how was eliminating hologrinding for the betterment of the game when hologrinding was only for those who wanted to become Jedi? The reason for eliminating hologrinding (IMHO) was because too many people who wanted to be Jedi complained that it took too much time and was too much work to grind through 30+ professions to unlock. So once again how is 2 or more (yet to be seen) major publishes specifically devoted to the Jedi profession (yes, that was stated by the devs) not for the Jedi profession.

You need to go back and read the Jedi archives again where it staes that Pub 9 and 10 are specifically for the Jedi revamp, and BTW I don't see any other profession being dedicated it's own series of archives covering a very extensive in depth look at what is coming for them. So you can play it out any way you want, the plain simple truth is staring everyone in the face and that is the Jedi are getting all the attention, and until I see the rest of the revamps (sometime next year?) I will continue to take this stance.

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Kelko wrote:

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darkmeh wrote:

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Kelko wrote:

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darkmeh wrote:

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Kelko wrote:

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darkmeh wrote:

I suppose this issue is all based on opinion. Effort or monthly fee. We'd need an official DEV statement to understand what they intended. My opinion, though, is that we pay the monthly fee to compensate the DEVs for spending time to create updates and fixing bugs (they actually do, contrary to the belief of majority of the playerbase), and if you can't cope with the fact that certain professions currently get more attention than others (true or not), that the end-game goal for most people is Jedi, and that someone who grinded through more levels has more power than you, then you can cancel your account. Eventually, after JTL, the DEVs will begin to focus on the professions a lower amount of players have, and balance everything out. We'll just need patience.

Another opinion I have is that TheRetardFoundation made this post just to tick a few people off and start a little flaming and contradiction. He hasn't responded to the thread, so he's probably sitting back and having a laugh while people argue over a post he never intended to be constructive.

But just in case he is a newbie and not just using a new forum account, then I'll answer his very simple question.

"Why is it that any question to the jedi about why they think they deserve so much power equals to 'I had to grind for 6 months to get it?' "

Well, because they did. Spending 6 months in a game grinding through professions you didn't want to do deserves some recognition.

I'm done here. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, as that was not my intention.

/wave

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I disagree, the monthly fee is for the upkeep of the game servers and new content, etc. The patches and fixes is what we all paid for ahead of time when we purchased the game.

Once again I stick to my earlier statement. If they don't like having to spend 6 months grinding through professions they didn't want to then don't play Jedi. Don't come to the forums and goose step around stating that your six months of effort is any better or desrves better treatment than my six months of effort spent on a different profession. We all paid to play this game no matter what profession, and as such we all deserve the same respect, time, and energy from the devs, regardless of what profession we play.

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I'm posting one more time to clarify things...

By patches, I meant patching in of content, and by fixes, I also meant upkeep of servers.

I don't remember saying anything to contradict your statement about not playing Jedi if you don't like it. I just suggegested that if you really have high expectations for your profession, you should try to add some constructive ideas on your forum.

I never said that a Jedi's effort is more or less important or deserves more recognition. The professions should all get the same amount of attention, I agree. There is no DEV statement stating that they are focusing on Jedi which know of, however. Just because they had a patch for Jedi does not mean that the DEVs are focusing on them alone. No one really knows for sure.

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As far as that statement, It wasn't directed specifically at you.

As far as the Devs stating they are or are not focusing on Jedi, you need to go back and read all the announcments, specifically the ones where the Devs stated that the next 3 (?) major publishes will be devoted, for the most part, to the Jedi revamp. They also stated that the Jedi revamp would probably be the biggest of all the profession revamps because they were basically starting the profession over from scratch.

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There are only two major patches pertaining to Jedi. The Jedi revamp was the only one specifically affecting the Jedi profession. Patch 10 is changing the way to obtain Jedi, because the hologrind sucked. This may or may not increase the number of Jedi, it's uncertain. All that exists now is speculation on the matter. The elemination of the hologrind was definately for the better of the game, and not for Jedi, though.

Chefs and Bio-Engineers also got revamped, maybe not to such an extreme, but that doesn't really matter unless you want to start nit-picking. So unless you say they are only focusing on chefs, BEs, and Jedi, these patches are not valid in confirming that the DEVs have changed all of their focus to Jedi.

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That's funny, sounds like to me that changing the way Jedi is obtained means it is for the Jedi profession. It's certainly not affecting the other professions. And how was eliminating hologrinding for the betterment of the game when hologrinding was only for those who wanted to become Jedi? The reason for eliminating hologrinding (IMHO) was because too many people who wanted to be Jedi complained that it took too much time and was too much work to grind through 30+ professions to unlock. So once again how is 2 or more (yet to be seen) major publishes specifically devoted to the Jedi profession (yes, that was stated by the devs) not for the Jedi profession.

You need to go back and read the Jedi archives again where it staes that Pub 9 and 10 are specifically for the Jedi revamp, and BTW I don't see any other profession being dedicated it's own series of archives covering a very extensive in depth look at what is coming for them. So you can play it out any way you want, the plain simple truth is staring everyone in the face and that is the Jedi are getting all the attention, and until I see the rest of the revamps (sometime next year?) I will continue to take this stance.

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Well if you're going to be that stubborn, I won't try to change your mind. But I here there's a whole set of professions coming up that have a whole expansion devoted to them...is it at all possible that the DEVs could be focusing on that instead of Jedi?

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

Well we all know the real problem is not the power level of the jedi or the means by which they got there but the fact that there are hundreds already on each server and many more on the way. Soon we will have to be one or be a second rate combatant. The rest of us will take to the stars to play just because we'll be sick of looking at jedi everywhere.

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darkmeh wrote:

I didn't mean to offend you if I did, but that's how it is. MMORPGs are based on time and effort, so it only makes sense if Jedi takes more work, effort, and riskto accomplish a high level of skill, it would be given a greater reward.

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Auraboron wrote:

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darkmeh wrote:

I didn't mean to offend you if I did, but that's how it is. MMORPGs are based on time and effort, so it only makes sense if Jedi takes more work, effort, and risk to accomplish a high level of skill, it would be given a greater reward.

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What about those people who unlocked on five professions?

It doesn't work out right.

Balance will come. Be patient.

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That's what pissed me off the most about the whole hologrinding thing. The whole unlocking FS deal was supposed to happen for anyone at anytime. The idea was you wouildn't when or where. It was supposed to happen randomly. Well then came the abomination known as hologrinding.

that Planetside and EQII's forums get to use pictures and cool sigs but we dont?

just an innocent question

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ColMcBob wrote:
that Planetside and EQII's forums get to use pictures and cool sigs but we dont?

just an innocent question

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A long time ago, on a forum not so far away..

Someone used a style-sheet to exploit the forums. They were h4x'd. So, they banninated us from using the secksah signatures.