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Thread: Every Master Artisan Read!!!

Anthemion
Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:26 pm
#27

Let's be reasonable. On Radiant resources cost 2.5-4 cpu for the most part. So I would say it would be reasonable to charge 4-6 cpu for the vehicles. If you harvest your own resources (which you probably do if your a master artisan) this is a healthy profit that's significantly less than the armor and weapon vendors are charging. This should keep most from getting their undies in a bunch.


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Defconn
Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:46 pm
#28

Athemion...now THIS argument, I can agree with...because it makes sense...



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troyalgood
Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:21 am
#29






Bigface wrote:
Well personally I will be paying people to take my vehicles from me. I can't stand to make money to pay for all the expensive things in this game and prefer to beg from my friends. I will be giving 5k and a vehicle to anyone who asks. I love all those people who walk by sneering at my goods and not buying them looking for a price 5 credits less, and will be handing them an extra 5k on top of the regular deal. I feel so much love for the people that I know I can work harder and spend many more hours of my time running around collecting resources just so people will like me when I give them their goodies. I love paying inflated prices for goods and would never in a million years think of charging those same people a fair market value for anything I produce. I am just a lowly Master Artisan not worthy of licking the dust off their feet. I am ashamed that some of you are *shocked* going to charge money for something we should all be paying people to take off our hands. I mean isn't Master Artisan just a stepping stone to better and higher professions? Master Artisans in no way deserve to actually make a living like those esteemed and honorable professions. If fact I will be making schematics for them all, as well as providing the resources for free, cause I never want to sell anything again. I love everyone so much I wish they would spit on me and treat me as nothing. Then I would feel better about myself. Yes I will buy the love of my fellow players by working everyday for their enjoyment. *smiles contentedly*





well i guess that sums it up nicely. lol the sarcasm was thick enough to lay a medium harvestor on.


im gonna charge an arm and a leg to whoever will pay an arm and a leg. why? cause i couldnt afford a mount until the third day, and my swoop will blow the doors, rather, eye lids off a kaadu anyday. and atSR 996 they should last a little longer than theaveragebeaters out there. guild members will get a discount of course, but im going broke as it is so i wont be GIVING them away.




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DarK
Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:22 am
#30

Despite all... I think that Vaedross said it's more than a fair price for all:


Resources used x 4cpu + 10%



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Anubios
Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:59 am
#31

lmao Bigface

me? i'll charge whatever ppl will offer.

then maybe goto 5cpu next week.. I'll make at cost for friends if ppl don't want them at my prices I don't care much and will stick them on my vendor..

Makes no difference to me at all



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SolitudeInMusic
Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:04 am
#32

I am going to sell them this way. Anyone who gives me the resources needed, free. Anyone who is in my guild, free. To all others though my prices will be:


Land Speeder: 60k


Speeder Bike: 70k


Swoop Bike: 80k


But to creature handlers, because you were such !@#? when the mount patch came out, you get the price above with a surcharge of 50%. Why? cause it takes little to nothing to tame a Kaadu into a mount. It didn't cost you anything and your price was ridiculous, although I did meet some CHs that were cool with their price, at 20k. Most though weren't. It costs us money to make our "mounts" it costs you nothing but maybe 5-10 minutes worth of time. Gee, maybe you should have been a little nicer?


I play on Tarquanis. I am located in AH and my name is Riechman. Send "tell" if interested in buying from me. Remember if you bring me the resources your vehicle is free. Except if your a CH and you bring me the resources I will only charge you 50% of the listed prices.




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kurtain
Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:11 am
#33

Hah ! I have enough stuff to make about 600+ of any of the 3......i will mass produce them and charge 20k only and flood the market......I will undercut every one of you price monkers, and will laugh when you get all upset over this , my goal is to make sure everyone has one and i will give them away free to those that don't have enough money......too many have screwed over players for too long, I will set it right....just have to guess which servers I'm on.... =0
Aibar
Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:16 am
#34

I will be selling for 4c per unit, except for my guild members.


I was going to sell for 3c per but i need to make a profit and i will have everyone asking me to make them and run out of resources very quickly if i charge at 3c per.


As for CH's i agree they were charging way to much for a mount, i only paid 12k for 2 so i can't complain about what i paid. I had to let mine grow and someone wanted to charge me 5k to train one of them, i didnt go back to the person i bought them from, i refused to pay for training a mount takes all of 2 minutes to train not worth 5k.





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MichailArris
Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:07 am
#35






Jedika wrote:
Okay just to make sure that we all do this, we need to seta price for vehicles now 60k should be the minimum because if one of us sell cheaper then others everyone is gonna start cutting the prices artisans are becoming extremely poor nowadays so i think we should all set a minimum price because i dont wanna sell a vehicle for less that 3cpu u know what im saying we can all make a profit off this.






Well do what you want, personally I mine my own resources so if I sell at 3cpu I'm still going to turn a good profit. And there is no reason for artifically inflating prices because you can get a certain price for the resources by selling them toanother crafting profession. If you want to do that then buy yourself enough harvesters and do both, sell the production from one harvester to the other crafting class and use the production from the other for vehicles. Basically thats still a win/win situation, but some people seem so fixated on "how much canI stick people for" that they are not looking at the big picture.


While Creature Handlers did make a lot of money the first few days, they were limited to how many mountable creatures they could keep ontheir datapad (16). So the law of supply and demand applied quite well here, andit will apply to vehicles at first.


But Master Artisans are in a different and better position than the Creature Handlers,we canmake entirefactory runs and can generate crates and crates of these things. And unlike a mount which will take a long time to lose vitality, thus decreasing the need for a person to get a mount on a regular basis.A vehicle can be rendered useless in a matter of seconds (basically a griefers dream). So there is always going to be a fairly steady market for vehicles. And just like people in real life who trade in their old car for a newer one people will most likely do the same thing here. And since it will be easier to do this in a game enviroment than real life, this market will stay viable for quite some time.


So basically provide a high quality vehicle for a decent price (3cpu average 4cpu max). And then reap the rewards of repeat customers. Because there will be a steady market for these, over the long run.




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Aibar
Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:19 am
#36

Nice post Michail, i have to agree i want to sell a quality vehicle for a decent price so my customers will return when they need another vehicleand not price gouge just because i can.




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Defconn
Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:38 am
#37

Lol....600 units and he's going to flood a market of 48,000 subscribers....and even with a 50% attrition rate...still 24,000 subscribers...


Big words...small preparations...only 5 mil resource?...


Plus, 3 mins per unit....so if he has 4 factories running full time...that's 8 hours of factory time....16 hours if he only has 2 factories working...


You would have missed the boat...




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progman63
Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:31 pm
#38






Jayces wrote:

Myself and a few others in our PA are going to be giving away a vehicle on launch day for free to every PA member followed by every citizen and then anyone wandering the city (we currently have some 90 citizens including 60 PA members).


After that I reckon 10k -15k is a reasonable price.







10K - 15K won't even cover your costs.


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ThePurpleFish
Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:07 pm
#39

I have to say that I believe "fair" market price is going to change for each server. People on Lowca have gone insane selling resources - it is impossible to find resources under 4 credits per unit now. The people that sell for that - their vendors are always empty I saw some one selling Iron in Theed (on the Bazzaar) for 20 credits per unit!!!



Now, I mine my own resources - BUT I will not make less profit from a vehicle than I would from selling the resources outright - that is just rediculous. If others want to sell for less, so be it. If the market is ruined by these people - I will keep enough to make vehicles for my friends and sell the rest. Why bother lol


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