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Thread: Vehicle Customization: Should it be for Master Artisans to perform or for anyone and everyone?

Digitarius
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:41 pm
#157

Might have missed the ball on getting in here sooner and letting you know what I think but...


I'm for door #2, letting only MA's make the kits but I can use them.


I AM for the customization fading however. I believe this is more real and fits into the game better than having it stay a certain color until I change it again. After all, the vehicle wears out when I drive it.. .so why shouldn't the paint chip and fall off?


-Deker


Twyst1
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:42 pm
#158




DuckMaestro wrote:

either...


1. make colorizations last indefinatly (until the owner wants a new color) but these colorizations can only be done by master artisans.



or


2. make colorizations fade but allow anyone to colorize; however, the kits can only be made by master artisans and have limited or just asingle charge(s).


-duck





I completely agree with ducks proposal above.


If I have to choose a "door" I choose door #2, I would rather supply the kits for folks to color their own vehicles on myvendor than have to deal with tells asking me to customize vehicles.


I juse won't do it or else charge an un-godly amount of credits for the service so they go find somone else.




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Newton13
Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:53 pm
#159

Door # 2. I'm already in /tellhell as a Mayor... adding Nuna Shrive, paint your vehicle any color 4 2995 is going to be too much.


Let me sell the item and teach them to use it.. not saddle me with more responsiblity.





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ckaul
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:23 pm
#160

Im a Master Artisan AND a Master Droid Engineer.
Correct me, but the Droid Customition Kit has the excact same function for colouring Droids.
Look at your server stats ... how many people use this tool ?


I prefer the customer-friendly way: Customer can use this tool.



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EpiFett
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:25 pm
#161

Option #2.

I want my class to be BETTER, via increased survey abilities at Master.
(see link, where nearly all posts are in favor of this idea)
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=artisan&message.id=26838

Allow us to Experiment in THREE areas for this:

Duration: (00%=1 day, 99%=7 days) ------ this allows for wide variety based on skill.
Charges: (00%=2 charges, 99%=6 charges) ----- this allows for 1 kit per 1-3 vehicles.
Effectiveness: (00%=10 colors, 99%= 50 colors) ----- again, allows for skill-based variety.



The absolute last thing i will EVER do is hang out and paint vehicles all day.
Its a HUGE inconveniance, and will result in me eventually never making a kit unless i
want to paint my own bikes.



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Saigo
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:27 pm
#162

Why can't there be a 3rd choice: Master Artisans are the only ones allowed to do the customization, but the effect lasts a much more realistic length of time, say 200 pulls from the datapad instead of 20.


This is the option I vote for!TH, you said an adjustment like this was easy to implement. Waiting a few months while leaving the paint decay rate so high will be disasterous. Make it more realistic right off the bat!


I figure an average vehicle owner pulls the bike out maybe 4-5 times a day? At that (totally made-up) rate, if you allow 200 pulls, a nice shiny paint job would last over a month before they have to come back to me for a touch-up.


The repeat business is much more important to methan selling a few dozen crates of kits to an anonymous customer, never to be heard from again.













Leshyn
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:39 pm
#163

Definitely option 2. At least if the customization tool has a limited number of charges. I don't have time to handle customers myself, even if they will bother to find me and ask for colorization. I want to sell my products on the bazaar or on my vendor.

I may be an exception, but as I play from Sweden on a US server I'm not online during my server's prime time. That means that I often craft things in the middle of the night (US timezones) and put them on the bazaar. The next time I log on, most of them are sold and I make another batch. This works perfectly for crafting kits, personal harvesters (though they don't sell well), resources, etc. Vehicle customization kits would be useless for me, except for customizing my own ride.

I only wish droid customization kits could be made to work as option 2, too.



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Mejowepra
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:44 pm
#164

I want this to be a crafted tool, sold to anyone, used by anyone. I don't want to be the image designer of vehicles. I also think the same should apply to the droid customization tool.

It's easier to sell a consumable than a service, especially without a way to actually charge for services in a way that is safe for both the buyer and seller.

I.e I vote #2.




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Mejowepra
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:46 pm
#165



EUTHANIZE wrote:
Let's just try this:
1). MA's & MDE's make their customization kits, but anyone can use them.
2). Colors never fade on droids or vehicles.
3). Customizations kits are a one-use item.
As a MA on Live, I do not want to keep dozens of kits in my backpack, have to stand by the starport "coloring" for donations, or do the whole ID thing back & forth with folks. I'd much rather make these in bulk and sell them on bazaar/vendors and let the rest of the world be as fickle as they'd like.
You may balk at the "never fade" option, but honestly who's making big bucks on customizing droids anyways?
- Grym



I agree with this except that I don't see fading as an issue. Make fading time a matter of quality though - i.e poor quality - 1 day, good quality - 2 weeks.

Making the color not fade, for a consumer item, would cause a situation similar to many other products - buy once, use, never buy again. Not good. Current fade times are too low though and should be minimum on non-experimented tool.




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xxx_buckshot
Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:47 pm
#166

BIG FAT #2



screw flanders
Hunter-Al
Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:10 pm
#167

#2


But I like the idea that a MA's paintjob lasts longer than a non-MA's paintjob. Why not allow MA's to paint vehicles during the construction phase, and that paint job will be the "permanent" paint job on that vehicle... Paint jobs done with the tool only last a week or so.
Hunter-Al
Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:13 pm
#168

Oh yeah... How about a vehicle repair tool? We could sell those no problem!!!
BainVenom
Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:09 pm
#169

Better yet....giveMaster Artisans a new schematic to make a painting booth thatcrafters can purchase and set up in their shops. With these booths a customer can use them for a cost and paint 1 item at a time. The items that would be able to be painted would be Armor, Vehicles, and Droids. Also expand the available colors.


Most crafters that I know including myself don't necessarily like not knowing exactly what color a customer wants. With this booth a crafter would be able to get merchant experience.




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