Armorsmith Archive

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Dolem1te wrote:

Seeing all the edited posts by Garva makes me feel like this game exists in an Orwellian world

I dont understand why people cant express their opinions here.

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They can. You can take your tinfoil hat off too. He edited them because the length was making the entire thread stretched out so that the formatting looked very poor and would not fit on the screen.

Please people don't post longer than 1 line of text with no spaces. It ruins the whole page. I mean come on, can't you just type woot with like 10 'o's instead of 90 'o's?

The devs already said when they first mentioned we would get the maurder armor, no helmet, so that's one thing the nerfer's can stop crying about. The second is you can be sure the HAM costs are gonna be line withour larger HAM #'s. Third I bet its only craftable BY wookiees just like our Bowcasters, thereby stopping MOST of us from Crafting better armor, I for one am not an armor smith, so those wookiees who are will make boatloads, or I settle for basic stuff. All of this is fine by me.......

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AudioOrgana wrote:

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vvornth wrote:

I'm assuming the HAM bonus they get will be removed if they get full-body armors(the 9pieces set), yes?

You'll also let trandos wear boots and gloves soon enough won't you? Thanks!

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Agreed.

If they are to be given the same benefits as armor-wearing species, then they need to lose their extra HAM.

I'm all for giving EVERYONE full armor - as long as the species bonuses are taken away. You can't have it both ways.

Audio

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/Disagree

The solution isn't in changing the speices bonuses, the solution lies in increasing the ham cost of the specific armors.

Wookies have +1600 ham? Ok then make their armor cost 1600 (more or less) hammore than a human similar one.

Same for Transhodian, make specifics gloves, boots with higher ham cost.

This way the speices keeps their differences. If all speices would have the same stats it would remove diversity from the game and fun. But in full armors all speices should be leveled...

And by the same time please tweak the substats of all races, I still don't understandwhy a human can be stronger than a Wookie and so on for all speices...

Deewe

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DirkTheDaring wrote:

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Maj_Carnage wrote:

cmon now people, you seriously never go into combat with out buffs. figure your self that way. you can wear 80% resist compsite armor with no effect to ham and you complain?!? okkill the ham increase for wookiees,

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Ok, but still a wookiee with an extra 600 HAM + buffs > me with buffs. Bye bye extra wookiee HAM bonus or hello weaker version of armor specifically for wookiees. I'm sure it will be the latter.

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That's about to become true, with buffs becoming based on a modifier, rather than being mostly random. So OK, take away 300 of our HAM. Now we're even. But we'd better get 90% resistant full-body armor!

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Ok, take away your extra 700 HAM (not 300) and I hope you have millions of dollars to buy thismagic 90% resist all armor. It's not like the humans arehaving thisarmor passed out to them for a few thousand credits.

haun wrote:

prehaps an armor made from the bark of the trees on kashyyyk, mended together with the hides of the animalsnative to kashyyk, lacured togetherand finished off with colorful and bright fabrics like the samurai of old.

samurai style armor with a broad slightly open face plate, large padded and leathered chest plates and arm and leg bindings would be awsome for wookiees!

I hope not for one reason. A bark or hide armor would perpetrate the myth that Wookiees are primitaves. They are very technologicaly advanced, not primitives.

The best solution would be bio armor because of the Wookiees realtionship with nature. However bio armor and weapons do not fit in with Star Wars.

So technological armor is the best solution in my opinion. Though maybe intigrating some aspects of nature or from nature. How they would do this though I'm not sure. Maybe using modern materials the armor would have spines on the back of it like some creatures in the game do. I don't know.

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Angetenar wrote:

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DirkTheDaring wrote:

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Angetenar wrote:

With a full set off buffs you and I are toe to toe without armor. Give you armor with, say, 70% resistance and me armor with 40% and the advantage is instantly yours again.

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Actually without armorand with a full set of buffs (on both parts) a wookiee still has 600 more HAM.

before buffs: Wookiee +600HAM > Human
after buffs : Wookiee (buffed) +600HAM > Human (buffed)

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My point wasn't that the numbers evened out exactly. I was saying that, at the level buffs boost you, that extra ham doesn't make a lick of difference.

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But the buffs are available to you also, so it does make a difference. Why don't you get buffed?

Oh and for the record I'm glad the Wookiees get armor. I just don't think it'll be anywhere near 90% resists, OR you'll just all lose a random 700 HAM. You don't think it means much, but you'll sure notice if you had to lose it.

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Garyyyk wrote:

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mp294 wrote:

However, it would still be an advantage if the armor is the same. We wont know till they tell us though.

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Have you (and by "you" I mean everyone who says Wookiees will be suddenly uber if we have equivalent armor) been campaigning against the advantage every other species has had over Wookiees to this point, or are you suddenly all about "balance" only now that Wookiees won't be cannon fodder for you anymore?

The majority of people complaining when we were getting our bums handed to us were Wookiees, and suddenly now that we will be able to compete, everyone else wants "balance".

You do realize that Wookiees are bigger and stronger than humans/Zabraks/Mon Calamari/Bothans/Rodians/Twi'leks, right? That information has penetrated your skull, I'm assuming?

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Wow, such anger over a game. Pathetic lol.

Heres my stance: Wookies SHOULD have armor. I'm glad they are getting it.

Why I entered this thread in the first place: If wookies get a fullset of armor (9 pieces), I want the same for my Trando. Its only fair. This might be moot anyway.

The only point I'm trying to make: If wookie armor is as good as normal armor, they WILL have an advantage, however small it is (again, assuming its a full set). And when there is ANY advantage, players will follow. Wookie will be the new "FOTM".

However, they probably wont get a full set anyway, so it doesnt really matter. I was just trying to be constructive. I'm also ejecting myself from this thread, because its turning into a kiddie flame war, which I dont bother with.

Soooooo...Yay for wookies

Clear enough for ya?

I give props to you, crafted is always better because now we will have socketed armor and be able to use armor attachments which was one of our main concerns. This is also better because after our one suit of armor wears out we will not be forced to pay a million credits for a suit as people were selling them for on the trade forums in anticipation.
Thanks Devs, you've made my day, lots of love from this wookiee,
Blanchbaca

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DirkTheDaring wrote:

But the buffs are available to you also, so it does make a difference. Why don't you get buffed?

Oh and for the record I'm glad the Wookiees get armor. I just don't think it'll be anywhere near 90% resists, OR you'll just all lose a random 700 HAM. You don't think it means much, but you'll sure notice if you had to lose it.

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Next question then. If Wookiees should loose their HAM bonus to wear armor. Should Dosh loose theirs?

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DirkTheDaring wrote:
Ok, take away your extra 700 HAM (not 300) and I hope you have millions of dollars to buy thismagic 90% resist all armor. It's not like the humans arehaving thisarmor passed out to them for a few thousand credits.

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mp294 wrote:

Heres my stance: Wookies SHOULD have armor. I'm glad they are getting it.

Why I entered this thread in the first place: If wookies get a fullset of armor (9 pieces), I want the same for my Trando. Its only fair. This might be moot anyway.

The only point I'm trying to make: If wookie armor is as good as normal armor, they WILL have an advantage, however small it is (again, assuming its a full set). And when there is ANY advantage, players will follow. Wookie will be the new "FOTM".

However, they probably wont get a full set anyway, so it doesnt really matter. I was just trying to be constructive. I'm also ejecting myself from this thread, because its turning into a kiddie flame war, which I dont bother with.

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I've always thought the "no gloves, no boots thing" was BS anyway, so you've got my vote. The missing armor on your hands and feet was balanced to beta bone armor, just like our complete lack of armor is. It's way out of hand now.

But Wookiees won't be a new flavor of the month unless everyone's planning to start all the way over. It's not like dropping Commando to become a Combat Medic.

While we're on the subject, why not give Bothans more HAM to balance with at least humans? And shave them, lengthen their bones and shorten their noses. Then remove their Imperial faction penalty. COME ON PEOPLE! The races are a little different, and no one seemed to care about balance until the prospect of Wookiee armor appeared.

And this game is not all about PvP. I NEVER PvP, so I don't give a rat's ass if I last .5 seconds longer than a human because I have some extra HAM that gets eaten by a CM or stun weapon anyway. I just want to not get dropped in one hit because my race can build starships but not kneepads.