Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Wookiee armor
That's about to become true, with buffs becoming based on a modifier, rather than being mostly random. So OK, take away 300 of our HAM. Now we're even. But we'd better get 90% resistant full-body armor!
DirkTheDaring wrote:
Maj_Carnage wrote:
cmon now people, you seriously never go into combat with out buffs. figure your self that way. you can wear 80% resist compsite armor with no effect to ham and you complain?!? okkill the ham increase for wookiees,
Ok, but still a wookiee with an extra 600 HAM + buffs > me with buffs. Bye bye extra wookiee HAM bonus or hello weaker version of armor specifically for wookiees. I'm sure it will be the latter.
I don't play a Wookiee but
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!
/cheer wookiees
Dolem1te wrote:
that is an absolutely rediculous thing to do, period. And as for lightening up, the devs and forum moderators have made me this way.
Angetenar wrote:
With a full set off buffs you and I are toe to toe without armor. Give you armor with, say, 70% resistance and me armor with 40% and the advantage is instantly yours again.
Actually without armorand with a full set of buffs (on both parts) a wookiee still has 600 more HAM.
before buffs: Wookiee +600HAM > Human
after buffs : Wookiee (buffed) +600HAM > Human (buffed)
Kershakk wrote:
Keeping judgement reserved to see what actually happens armour wise. It's nice to hope for the best, but don't expect it!
For those folks who took think there is a 1600 HAM differential, think again.
Wookie :
Health +350
Strength +350
Constitution +150
Action +200
Quickness +100
Stamina +100
Mind +100
Focus +150
Willpower +100
Human :
Health +100
Strength +100
Constitution +100
Action +100
Quickness +100
Stamina +100
Mind +100
Focus +100
Willpower +100
The difference is 700. Not 1600. 1600 is the total bonuses added up. Using humans as a base of reference here, but you get modifiers too, so it's not 1600 - 700 spread out. It's not much and you can take it away if you like, it never helped any of us. There is no way you can say having an extra couple hundred health ever made up for 80% resists. None.
And for those who are going on about continuity - give me a freaking break. How selfish can you get. Yes, let's keep an entire playable race totally beat down so you can feel Star Warsy? Pft. Look around you. Plenty of stuff doesn't quite fit in, but I guess as long as it's good for you that's alright, eh? Me, me, me.
My point wasn't that the numbers evened out exactly. I was saying that, at the level buffs boost you, that extra ham doesn't make a lick of difference.
DirkTheDaring wrote:
Angetenar wrote:
With a full set off buffs you and I are toe to toe without armor. Give you armor with, say, 70% resistance and me armor with 40% and the advantage is instantly yours again.
Actually without armorand with a full set of buffs (on both parts) a wookiee still has 600 more HAM.
before buffs: Wookiee +600HAM > Human
after buffs : Wookiee (buffed) +600HAM > Human (buffed)
Kershakk wrote:
Keeping judgement reserved to see what actually happens armour wise. It's nice to hope for the best, but don't expect it!
For those folks who took think there is a 1600 HAM differential, think again.
Wookie :
Health +350
Strength +350
Constitution +150
Action +200
Quickness +100
Stamina +100
Mind +100
Focus +150
Willpower +100
Human :
Health +100
Strength +100
Constitution +100
Action +100
Quickness +100
Stamina +100
Mind +100
Focus +100
Willpower +100
The difference is 700. Not 1600. 1600 is the total bonuses added up. Using humans as a base of reference here, but you get modifiers too, so it's not 1600 - 700 spread out. It's not much and you can take it away if you like, it never helped any of us. There is no way you can say having an extra couple hundred health ever made up for 80% resists. None.
And for those who are going on about continuity - give me a freaking break. How selfish can you get. Yes, let's keep an entire playable race totally beat down so you can feel Star Warsy? Pft. Look around you. Plenty of stuff doesn't quite fit in, but I guess as long as it's good for you that's alright, eh? Me, me, me.
also - it doesn't matter that we have extra ham - the humans have extra ham where it counts.
most humans have minds that look like this
1100/800/800
because they have no cap on secondaries. their extra ham is twice as effective for healing and while buffed.
the extra ham for wookiees being a bonus is pretty much a myth
mp294 wrote:
Kershakk wrote:
Keeping judgement reserved to see what actually happens armour wise. It's nice to hope for the best, but don't expect it!
For those folks who took think there is a 1600 HAM differential, think again.
Wookie :
Health +350
Strength +350
Constitution +150
Action +200
Quickness +100
Stamina +100
Mind +100
Focus +150
Willpower +100
Human :
Health +100
Strength +100
Constitution +100
Action +100
Quickness +100
Stamina +100
Mind +100
Focus +100
Willpower +100
The difference is 700. Not 1600. 1600 is the total bonuses added up. Using humans as a base of reference here, but you get modifiers too, so it's not 1600 - 700 spread out. It's not much and you can take it away if you like, it never helped any of us. There is no way you can say having an extra couple hundred health ever made up for 80% resists. None.
And for those who are going on about continuity - give me a freaking break. How selfish can you get. Yes, let's keep an entire playable race totally beat down so you can feel Star Warsy? Pft. Look around you. Plenty of stuff doesn't quite fit in, but I guess as long as it's good for you that's alright, eh? Me, me, me.
You are correct lol. Just went and checked myself. Sorry about that
However, it would still be an advantage if the armor is the same. We wont know till they tell us though.
So what exactly will be the disadvnatge to being a wookie if they will now get - Better stats than everyone else - Armor - Bowcaster -Special Abilities like Roar, Etc.
first off the bowcaster is the biggest pile of bantha fodder i ever seend it stat are normaly like this ap0 speed 7 to 8 seconds dmg 45 to 180 and ham equalt to the dlt20 the bowcaster need ap 2 to be any good
nagyt
Has anybody noticed the amount of coments in the vien of thak you thank you? why are there so many players that feel like this move by the dev team is a special present? hasn't everybody all along known that wookiees are beat down and the worst race to play in the game? how can anybody with an ounce of fairness in the intrest of good game play think this would be a bad thing? alls i know is im looking forward to other new games that should publish soon so i can have a good reason to leave starwars galaxies. how can SOE expect to keep it's client base when they take so long to fix things like finally getting wookiees some way of being a respectable race to even think about playing?
mp294 wrote:However, it would still be an advantage if the armor is the same. We wont know till they tell us though.
Have you (and by "you" I mean everyone who says Wookiees will be suddenly uber if we have equivalent armor) been campaigning against the advantage every other species has had over Wookiees to this point, or are you suddenly all about "balance" only now that Wookiees won't be cannon fodder for you anymore?
The majority of people complaining when we were getting our bums handed to us were Wookiees, and suddenly now that we will be able to compete, everyone else wants "balance".
You do realize that Wookiees are bigger and stronger than humans/Zabraks/Mon Calamari/Bothans/Rodians/Twi'leks, right? That information has penetrated your skull, I'm assuming?