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Thread: Just Curious
I also believe that it was mentioned somewhere that the dropping to the stockroom then deletion of items was to keep the database from exploding. That way if someone leaves the game, their stuffed vendor isn't needlessly taking up database space.
DocSavag wrote:
Essentially it is a mechanic to prevent you from stocking your vendor with all your stuff and then leaving the game and not coming back for months and those items sticking around and taking up space in the vendor. They are supposed to either be sold or force you to take action. It also serves as an indicator that you have stock that isn't moving as well. If your items aren't selling month after month (the same items) then you need to look at the pricing or the items you are tryign to sell. A certain amount of expiration is expected since you try to keep your vendor fully stocked, but if you are constantly having to put the same items back up for sale time and time again then I would suggest you should look at why they aren't selling.
Yes but Doc, there is one fault in that. Tailors, active tailors anyways,are technically "required"to keep a large stock on hand. Whether people buy it or not isn't really an issue. It's the fact it has to be there "in case" someone does want it. As a Master Tailor, I have 9 vendors with about 2000 itemsof clothing alone. Each one has anywhere from 100-300+ items on it, they are catergorized for ease in use by the customer. I don't sell them all every month. If I remade just what I sold each month, I'd only need one vendor..but the point is that as a tailor..heck any crafting profession... you have to make options available or you don't succeed. A lot of crafting professions are about variety, as a tailor we have over 250 schematics alone, and we can't just make 1 of everything. No crafting proffession makes just 1 of everything and succeeds. We have to make multiples of everything, not everything sells but as a business minded person, you know you have to have it there just in case. If you don't have the variety available, people aren't going to come back.
It needs to be addressed that the 30 day timer is really troublesome to some people. Yes I can understand their needs to be a timer, but there needs to be a way to re-list items faster, or easier. I have 11 vendors, 9 for tailoring 2 for artisan, again the reason I have so many is for two reasons.
1) To make it easier for customers to find what they want.
2) To make it easier for me to manage (relist every month and what not).
Vendors last for 100 days now I think it is? My items stay for sale 29days 23hrs 59 mins. My items in the stock room last for anywhere from 29 days 23hrs 59mins to 55 days (that I've seen). Um..why does my vendor last 100 days? Nothing in it will last that long.
I don't mind having to relist my items, tho I do it begrudgingly and with a heavy sigh everytime I have to. It seems that just as soon as I'm done I have to start over again.There needs to be a longer timer, or aneasier way to relist. To re-sell every item individually, or to retrieve items 20 or so at a time to resell, it gets very very old and takes a great deal of time. And it is the reason a lot of people have dropped vendors all together.
I'm not saying it needs to be done away with, I'm saying it needs to be looked at. I also look at it this way, if for some reason I have to leave the game for any period of time greater than 30 days, I'll come back to find empty vendors. Yea my vendors will still be alive, but my items will be gone.I'm not looking forward to this when I move in a couple months, as I will be gone for around 2 months.
I'm not asking for a fix so I'll be saved the suffering from my upcoming move. I'm saying that as a whole, it becomes a major burden to any merchant out there. Those merchants who are lucky enough to have their stock sell out every month, my congrats to you..but for those of us, who keep a standard stock on hand day to day, month to month.. the re-listing every 30 days is too much. I can't adjust my prices very much, they are pretty set and I can't adjust mystock t0 get rid of items that don't sell. I need to have a large stock.. if I don't have a large stock available I am no longer a "good" tailor and my business will suffer.
I don't particularly agree with the idea that to succeed as a tailor you have to stock everything. Its just not how I play, but if you want to fine. I agree that the relist mechanism is cumbersome and should be greatly enhanced.
DocSavag wrote:
Relisting is one of the priorities that I think needs to be addressed.
I don't particularly agree with the idea that to succeed as a tailor you have to stock everything. Its just not how I play, but if you want to fine. I agree that the relist mechanism is cumbersome and should be greatly enhanced.
Well you are right, you don't "need" to have everything, but I personally feel the need to have a great deal. I don't have everything, but I have a lot. It's not even a matter of how many items I feel I need, tho many find it excessive 
It's part of my reputation now, I'm not about to change it to make things easier for me, tho when it comes time to relist my vendors I wish I did lol.
The relisting system is veryfrustrating to those who choose to have a great deal of stock month to month. The main reason I even responded was because I was left with the impression that you weren't realizing the fact it is an issue for some people.If anything, I was left with the impression that "it's the way it is, live with it" or "adjust your stock and deal with it". Where as it is a part of the game, and we do have to deal with it, it's not always something that can be adjusted by everyone, and it could be made so much easier. I'm not entirely sure how, but there has to be a way hehe.
I'm glad that you feel it needs to be addressed, and I'll quit pestering you about it 
Saera wrote:
DocSavag wrote:
Relisting is one of the priorities that I think needs to be addressed.
I don't particularly agree with the idea that to succeed as a tailor you have to stock everything. Its just not how I play, but if you want to fine. I agree that the relist mechanism is cumbersome and should be greatly enhanced.Well you are right, you don't "need" to have everything, but I personally feel the need to have a great deal. I don't have everything, but I have a lot. It's not even a matter of how many items I feel I need, tho many find it excessive
The relisting system is veryfrustrating to those who choose to have a great deal of stock month to month. The main reason I even responded was because I was left with the impression that you weren't realizing the fact it is an issue for some people.If anything, I was left with the impression that "it's the way it is, live with it" or "adjust your stock and deal with it". Where as it is a part of the game, and we do have to deal with it, it's not always something that can be adjusted by everyone, and it could be made so much easier. I'm not entirely sure how, but there has to be a way hehe.
I'm glad that you feel it needs to be addressed, and I'll quit pestering you about it
I do feel that there is always going to be a certain amount of pain for merchants who want to stock rarely purchased items and I don't think that is a bad thing. The retail economy in SWG in my opinion (and this is my personal opinion) needs more diversity. Too many vendors selling exactly the same things. This isn't the fault of merchants its really the fault of the crafting system which has too many items which are only acceptable when crafted a certain way. More ways to make merchandise specialized for specific playstyles and needs would create more diverse markets and more opportunity for crafters to fill niche markets that some others aren't interested in filling.
I do however understand that even for the casual crafter having to relist 100's or 1000's of items at once is a very severe drain of the fun factor in the game and that is why it is one of the top items on our lists of things we would like fixed.
Message Edited by OditeFosore on 11-19-2004 04:29 PM
i always use a jawa for a few secs, and if it isnt doing enough damage, i switch to a tenloss