Armorsmith Archive
Thread: 2 different smiths able to hit 44 stun on Intrepid(Edited on Oct 14 with how we did it)
Nichrf36
Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:57 am
#53
FYI if I have Yaman's permission I will happily post how we did it- Im glad to see there is people looking into it.
justapilgrim
Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:11 am
#54
why two smiths on intrepid?
why not one intrepid smith and a valcyn smith?
are the in kahoots?
I am still scratching my head
NiBorg
Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:55 am
#55
I would like to know ow this is done as well. And I'm actually able to hit 40% stun with 84% x3 layers.
Asir_SWG
Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:31 am
#56
I have had crazy 'goods' in the past that pushed me past the caps, like I was hand crafting some padded recently and using exactly the same resources and segments one bracer came out with 7% more base than any other part made.....
Also, certain experimenting methods can produce different results in the craft... It has long been known to WS that to get a 40 min 40 max stock you need to experiment 1 point at a time, if you experiment all the points at the same time you never get the same result, something like this could be coming into play?
NiBorg
Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:41 am
#57
I tried the 1 point at a time method and eventried to cause some fails, even forced 10 points into an 8 point line without failures and it didnt help. I'm thinking it's not in the layers at this point even if it should be.
Viq
Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:55 am
#58
I think the Devs threw us a bone with the reward for one of the FS crafting quests that just ended. See this post.
The screenshot shows a lightsaber crafting tool with 20 uses of "Guaranteed Critical Assemblies". Posters in that thread report that "critical assemblies" allow you to experiment past the cap.
This is in-line with what others in this thread have said about once-in-a-blue-moon abnormally high results. It also fits with Rocky's (the 44% smith) hints that it took lots of grinding; that FS skills, player cities, and food (which all give assembly bonuses) would help; and that it could apply to all sorts of crafting besides just armor.
The screenshot shows a lightsaber crafting tool with 20 uses of "Guaranteed Critical Assemblies". Posters in that thread report that "critical assemblies" allow you to experiment past the cap.
This is in-line with what others in this thread have said about once-in-a-blue-moon abnormally high results. It also fits with Rocky's (the 44% smith) hints that it took lots of grinding; that FS skills, player cities, and food (which all give assembly bonuses) would help; and that it could apply to all sorts of crafting besides just armor.
Message Edited by Viq on 10-14-2004 10:57 AM
NiBorg
Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:08 am
#59
i'll put a -stat station out in the middle of nowhere and see if i can force a bad assembly for the hell of it.
Nichrf36
Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:09 am
#60
NiBorg wrote:
I tried the 1 point at a time method and eventried to cause some fails, even forced 10 points into an 8 point line without failures and it didnt help. I'm thinking it's not in the layers at this point even if it should be.
Its on the layers. I used those same layers to hit 44 stun on an RIS helm.
CharPrime
Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:10 am
#61
I think if you are crafting and gets aggro into combat you will crit fail
NiBorg
Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:22 am
#62
Does it have something to do with doubled up experimentation on a single line? You actually used all 10-12 but the system reads it as 5-6 left but are unusable?
CharPrime
Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:08 pm
#64
Srednii wrote:
meh, I'm having visions of what the weaponsmiths went through ages ago with the duped tissue bug thingie where some WS's were able to make tons of high quality krayt weapons without having to use tons of tissues. Thus ruining the krayt weapon market for the non exploiters for overhalf a year, and with SOE not doing a single thing to most of the exploiters.
Kudo's if you've somehow refined crafting to a new level, but the gloating and hinting and refusal to share your methods are to me marks of the exploiter.
I dunno, we'll see. If godly or any of the other smiths on bria start producing higher then 40% stun (non patch day stuff anyways) I'll know it's time for me to get out of the stun armor business, or join the ranks of exploiters.
lol one of the AS that hit 44% is also a WS and talk about funny schmatics
NiBorg
Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:12 pm
#65
those schematics dont work anymore anyway. this however is a perplexing puzzle.