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Thread: Wookiee armor

Waste93
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:47 am
#521



Cebre_Opasloa wrote:


Face facts, 80-90% composite armour IS what other races are using, I see lots of it on the servers. You can deny you want it, but when you ask for equivalent armour that IS what you're asking for. If you want that, then all races should get the same HAM bonus numbers...why should Wookiees get an extra 700 points when they're getting armour the same as the rest of us? Anyone care to answer that?



EQUIVALENT and the SAME are not the same word. EQUIVALENT means equal to. That means armor that is equal to composite WHILE taking into account our HAM bonus.


Why should Wookiees get an extra 700 HAM? Simple, because the armor can be made to take that into account. So if say a Human could wear the Wookiee armor it would be less effective than their composite. When worn by a Wookiee it would be equivalent to what a Human in composite is wearing.


Nowhere does it say Wookiees are getting the SAME armor. Just EQUIVALENT armor.


I'm still wondering why such a simple concept as making armor with slightly lower stats that takes into account the HAM bonus of Wookiees has not permeated your skull yet.




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WzaThaWizard
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:31 am
#522

It's pretty simple they were gonna give us maurader 25/14 % protections, low encumberance. With our stat bonuses, and that was gonna be no where near "invulnerable", if we keep the bonuses, which will be the easiest way for them to code it, we should get at max 40% all, but we must all take into effect that can be sliced for better %'s and the top % with slices and keeping the bonuses should be 40-50 which means starting is more around 25-35% protections to all, personally,30% to all except 1 vulnerabilty, choosen by the armorsmith. Be very careful with the graphics on the clothing cause all wookiee clothing is alittle buggy. If you would ask all wookiee's and ppl involved with wookiee's (tailors), would tell you that the battle paddings are the highest on the tailor skill tree and still dont take both types of bio eng cloths, only the shoulder pad given and novice does, plain stupid that is, as yoda would say. The armor should be the battle paddings, both types, and both types of shoulder pads, allow all 4 schematics to be given to an armorsmith for them to make them and be able to add protections to said paddings and shoulder pads, thats a very simple solution for the chest armor, and it looks great already, just now it has no use since, they cant even hold both bio eng cloths, so either make it so both battle paddings, and the hvy shoulder can take both bio eng cloths or just make it so the battle paddings can, they are the intended protections for wookiees, hence "Battle Padding" roflmao, just make those 4 schematics in some waytransferable to an armorsmith so they can craft them with protections. Of course this only solves the chest, but this should definitly be the chest ask all wookiees and tailors and they will say its so. Ofcourse we would need new legging armor, and head armor, i don't believe we should get boots, arms or gloves, just chest,head, and legs.

nothing more need be said.....................................................The Wookiee, there can be only one! RRROOOAAARRR!!!


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Angetenar
Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:07 am
#523

Well, fret not anti-wookiee crusaders. Your precious armor isn't going to get nerf'd with the crafting changes and wookiee armor will most likely suck. You have nothing to worry about.



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vegaz
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:18 am
#524

then its time for the other racs to be the weak ones and to get to know how that feel


soon we will see posts like "looking for wookie master BH for jedi hunt" and so on,rofl.


stop whining and just deal with it like us wooks have for so long. now it's your turn.


we dont even know exactly HOW good the armour will be anyway. so screw the extra HAM, nnever helped me out anyway...



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Kronic29
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:22 am
#525

All this is not new and do you really think us wookiees care about losing ham? We want to be on a level playing ground. It is BS that because of the simple fact that we can't wear armor we're screwed out of alot of the game which is simple for most. Eg., #1 be a wook and go fight a krayt and see how long you last, eg #2 go play hardcore pvp and get your ass kicked by some noob. Before you talk about wookiee's be one, than you might realize how ruff we have it. I been a wookiee since day one in july on release. I don't whine, cry, or **edit** about it. Doesn't mean it don't suck and is unfair that cause we a picked a wookiee race that we can't do all the things every other race can do in the game. I've kicked mucho butt in dueling and pvp, is this because im better and more well equipped? Answer us HELL NO...IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE SUCK THAT BAD. I'll give you a simple answer....hmm we get 700 more HAM PTS....advanced composite in actuality gives you 80-90% and hmm that's 8 to 9 times your normal ham. Go post on something when you have a reason, not because you want to knock down other races when u have no clue what your talking about.
Kronic29
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:31 am
#526

Sick of people like you. Let the wookie win? What the hell is that? I want a level playing ground plain and simple. Be a wookiee than talk and than see how long you last where it is easy for you cause your absorbing 80-90% of the hit while we get to take the full brunt of it. Let's see wookiee gets hit for 1800 dam by a giant canyon krayt, you know how much damage we take? 1800. Same scenerio with others and advanced composite you take 180-360 damage. So get off your high horse. Your complaint is not about wookiees, it's about being a noob and you don't want us wookiees to kick your ass in a fair fight. period
Koa41
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:38 am
#527


All of the people saying that this idea to give wookiees armor is stupid is wrong. The 700 HAM bonuses aren't all that helpful and our secondaries are capped off. The armor will help wookiees be able to compete in PvP. Nobody is complaining about the trandoshens having HAM bonuses AND the ability to wear 70% armor. Wookiees deserve a chance.


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TheBerserker
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:47 am
#528

I think this is very cool. I'm tired of being the first one laying on my back in a battle. I cant wait. I just want to know when this is actually getting patched into the game? does anyone know? Thanks


Kitalare


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sagun
Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:44 am
#529

so what happens to the ham bonuses then?


we need wookie armor like we need a thousand jedi running around during this time period...oh wait...





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Cebre_Opasloa
Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:50 pm
#530

For your information, Kronic I play a human, wear low encumberance composite armour with perhaps 50% resistances (so I'm not suffering 10% damage compared to you guys) and thanks to my being a carbineer with its' subpar special attacks could get my ass kicked by most any Wookiee...Do I whine about it? No. I note the 80-90% armour exists even though I don't use it.


I do agree that the situation with Transdoshans wearing armour except on their hands and feet is not really fair. I also agree that Wookiee armour MUST have lower resists than the top quality composite armour out there as some have suggested. Do I really want the HAM bonus that Wookiees get? No, if I did I'd play a Wookiee...


What I am against is the rampant attitude that everything has to be equal and fair. Life isn't always fair. Each race has strengths and weaknesses. All of those strengths and weaknesses balance out in some way or another. The problem arises when you get some people who sit there playing against their races' strengths moaning and complaining that they're not kicking enough ass. Even if you didn't know Wookiees couldn't wear armour when you started the character, nothing stops you from deleting the character and starting fresh with one that can except your own deliberate refusal to do so.


If you choose to play against your races' strengths, you SHOULD have it harder than others who ARE playing to their strengths. This doesn't mean you can't be as good, you just have to work harder at it. Someone like Mick Foley (WWE's Mankind, Dude Love, or Cactus Jack) doesn't have the natural attributes to be a marquee wrestler, but he's busted his ass harder (as he had to) and became a success anyway.


Instead of complaining you have it too hard and want Big Brother i.e. Sony to equalize the situation for you, try either ditching your existing character and playing a character to its'strengths either by changing professions to match your race or your race to match your profession, or develop better skills as some in this have and make yourselves better and more competitive.




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Maj_Carnage
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:02 pm
#531

Fine you don't wan't wookiees to have armor, let them do heavy armor piercing in melee combat. does that sound fair. seems like it would definately make them feel stronger. oh wait. you don't want that either? hrmm i get it this is what you'd like to see. remove wookiee ham bonuses don't let them wear armor and give them the special ability of easily targetable just so you can get your free kill in PVP. sound good?



C'mon people, it's simple math even you wearing armor completly negates our piddley ham bonuses. all our racial abilites are now nerfed. Just because we are finally getting someting to put us on a level field with other races will in no way make us Uber. i've been playing since launch as a wookiee. i don't want to be Uber, all i want is a chance in pvp and pve.





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Angetenar
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:25 pm
#532

I bought this game to create a Wookiee MBH. I now have a Wookiee MBH and he can be killed in 1 shot. If you didn't know anything about the game, and were just going off the EU, you would think that a Wookiee MBH would be a pretty powerful combat class. It isn't. It's just sad. The only people in the game who have ever expressed any fear of me were n00bs with cdef's. In the game I've had crafters offer to tank. I've heard people say things like "Kill the wookiees first. They're the easiest." I've heard "Why don't you let us take out the turrets before you approach the base." That's just sad.

Now, people say, "Well, create another character then." That isn't an option. The ONLY option for me is delete my account not my character. If the character I bought the game to play isn't viable within the game than there is no sesnse in my playing the game in the first place.

Armor might possibly resolve these issues. People worried about the HAM issues are getting worked up of nothing. There are several ways to address that concern, most all posted here. Get over it.



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Hamrick
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:47 pm
#533


This post is directed towards Cebre_Opasloa


I respect your opinion on this matter but I believe that if you yourself were a Wookiee, your opinion would be very different. You stated that you only use 50% resistant armor and are a carbineer and that you "get your ass kicked by wookies." Gee I wonder whythis is? You choose youself to use 50% armor when there is 80%-90% available? And you also choose carbineer, which is a less than perfect PvP profession with many bugs and faults. I can see why you may lose in PvP, but I dont think its because your fighting wookies, you would probobly get your "ass kicked" alot more vs another race that does have that 80-90% armor.


You also say that we should work "harder at it" I do agree with that to a certain point, we shouldnt be given anything on a silver platter, but I did work for it, and its not worth it in the end. When I first started this game I had no idea that wookiees could not wear armor, when I did find out I was disipointed but I decided hey, there must be a reason for this lack of armor, if I master some skills I bet I can take on people with armor at a fair playing field. But sadly I couldnt, I mastered TKA, Pistoleer, Bounty Hunter, Commando, Etc. In search of a perfect PvP wookiee combo, but NONE worked. Even with Full 3000+ buffs, better weopens than my enemy, more skills, The best PSG's, etc. I would still lose to people in full composite! I wouldnt even stand a chance, I am able to kill people in PvP, but only if they are unarmored or not Buffed.


I have never once complained about the lack of armor, but when I see people not wanting new wookiee armor to be up to par with the rest of the people I must object.


You say life isnt fair, well it isnt, but thats why I play this game, to escape reality for a while. Id just like a place where the playing field is level,Whyisanyone objecting to this ... I think its because people are scared, everyone has picked on wookiee's since the Beta, there is a damn lot of pent up rage about the blow up as soon as we get armor wookiees remember!



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