Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Complete CU AS schematics updated April 16th
linusboarder
Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:30 am
#40
ZIMI wrote:Im actually curious here....from what i have heard armor crafting has been taken down to a SINGLE line of expiermentaion. So is it going to make a difference if you are a 12pt smith now vs a 10 point? Or are resources going to be the lone factor?
It's 2 lines, not one... also IF condition is important post CURB (It may be) Then there will be a difference
Circe' Pojia
Capt_Obvious
Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:59 am
#41
k instead of fighting I thought you guys may appreciate a down and dirty listing of resource requirements so I gleaned from the above a compiled listing of resources that we will need if we decide to stay with it as armorsmiths.....
(Chemical)
polymer
fiberplast
gravatonic fiberplast
dathomir fiberplast
corellian fiberplast
nabooian fiberplast
polymer
fiberplast
gravatonic fiberplast
dathomir fiberplast
corellian fiberplast
nabooian fiberplast
(Metal)
metal
non-ferrous metal
ferrous metal
steel
iron
aluminum
copper
neutronium steel
perovskitic aluminum
thallium copper
conductive borcarbitic copper
kammris iron
mythra copper
phrik aluminum
beyrllius copper
carbonite steel
link-steel aluminum
metal
non-ferrous metal
ferrous metal
steel
iron
aluminum
copper
neutronium steel
perovskitic aluminum
thallium copper
conductive borcarbitic copper
kammris iron
mythra copper
phrik aluminum
beyrllius copper
carbonite steel
link-steel aluminum
(Crystalline based)
gemstone
crystalline gemstone
amorphous gemstone
laboi crystalline gemstone
Bal'ta'ran amorphous gemstone
plexite amorphous gemstone
kerol fire-gem crystalline gemstone
gemstone
crystalline gemstone
amorphous gemstone
laboi crystalline gemstone
Bal'ta'ran amorphous gemstone
plexite amorphous gemstone
kerol fire-gem crystalline gemstone
(Ore)
intrusive ore
extrusive ore
maleb siliclastic ore
ardanium siliclastic ore
alantium siliclastic ore
frasium carbonite ore
chromite carbonite ore
vintrium extrusive ore
chronamite extrusive ore
dylinium intrusive ore
(Organics)
hide
scaley hide
wooly hide
leathery hide
bristley hide
dantooine wooly hide
nabooian bristley hide
lokian leathery
hide
scaley hide
wooly hide
leathery hide
bristley hide
dantooine wooly hide
nabooian bristley hide
lokian leathery
Now my question is the important stats will be OQ+SR except final combine which will be OQ+SR+DR right?
/dusts off a bunch of heavy extracter deeds and heads over to asiabrothers for a while to figure this out
Message Edited by Capt_Obvious on 04-13-2005 02:47 PM
Brutus_Krylop
Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:12 am
#42
JangoFett100 wrote:
UmmonPrime wrote:
Naboo Bristley? What are they thinking? They stick over half the professions in this group and give us some stupid resource type that barely anyone has ever harvested?
Well if they wanted to control how much advanced armor was out there, that was a good way to do it....
This was my 1st thought. I was initially under the impression that almost nothing dropped naboo bristley. But it turns out there are several creatures in the 20 - 30 CL range that drop this.
Obviously, creature levels post-CURB are entirely subject to change, and harvesting levels and capabilities may also change before this hits live. That being said, I did a quick search over at SWGCreatures.com (great site) in order to compare the relative creature levels of critters that drop Dantooine Wooly, Nabooian Bristley, and Lokian Leathery.
Dantooine Wooly Hide
Dropped by: Huurtons and Thunes.
Most Huurtons are between CL 25 and CL 33. Missions for Huurton Stalkers (CL 33) are readily available with a small group. Thunes range in CL from 26-48, but missions for them are more difficult to find, and several thunes magically do not drop hide.
Nabooian Bristley Hide
Dropped by: Ikopis, Plains Hunters, Narglatches, Shaupauts, Tusk Cats, and Veermoks.
The critters with the highest CL for Nabooian Bristley, Plains Hunters (31) and Ikopi Stags (30) are random mobs without lairs. Narglatches range in level from 8 to 22. Shaupauts have a max CL of 22. Tusk cats are in the 16-18 CL range, and veermoks range from 9 to 22. We can safely say that getting a massive quantity of Nabooian Bristley Hide will be harder (and likely much more boring) than getting the same quantity of Dantooine Wooly Hide.
Lokian Leathery Hide
Dropped by: Just about everything on Lok -- Gurks, Gurnasets, Kimogilas, Mynocks, Perleks,Snorbals,Spined Snakes, andVesps.
Lok is a veritable sea of leathery hide. Missions for gurks and snorbals, around CL 30, are readily available. Kimogilas range in CL from 22-153. We can safely say that getting a massive quantity of Lokian Leathery Hide will be significantly easier (and potentially more lucrative) than getting the same quantity of Nabooian Bristley HIde, and slightly easier than Dantooine Wooly Hide.
So, in order of ease of acquisition, we have Lokian Leather > Dantooine Wooly > Nabooian Bristley.
If one was interested in changing Nabooian Bristley to something of approximately equal difficulty to that of Lokian Leather and Dantooine Wooly, I would suggest Tatooinian Bristley Hide (dragonets are CL 29, and Krayt Dragons drop bristley hide), or Yavin IV Scaley Hide (crystal snakes and klikniks are of appropriate level).
UmmonPrime
Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:49 am
#43
Capt_Obvious wrote:
k instead of fighting I thought you guys may appreciate a down and dirty listing of resource requirements so I gleaned from the above a compiled listing of resources that we will need if we decide to stay with it as armorsmiths.....
(Chemical)
polymer
fiberplast
gravatonic fiberplast
dathomir fiberplast
corellian fiberplast
nabooian fiberplast
(Metal)
metal
non-ferrous metal
ferrous metal
steel
iron
aluminum
copper
neutronium steel
perovskitic aluminum
thallium copper
conductive borcarbitic copper
kammris iron
mythra copper
phrik aluminum
beyrllius copper
carbonite steel
link-steel aluminum
(Crystalline based)
gemstone
crystalline gemstone
amorphous gemstone
laboi crystalline gemstone
Bal'ta'ran amorphous gemstone
plexite amorphous gemstone
kerol fire-gem crystalline gemstone
(Ore)
intrusive ore
extrusive ore
maleb siliclastic ore
ardanium siliclastic ore
alantium siliclastic ore
frasium carbonite ore
chromite carbonite ore
vintrium extrusive ore
chronamite extrusive ore
dylinium intrusive ore
(Organics)
hide
scaley hide
wooly hide
leathery hide
bristley hide
dantooine wooly hide
nabooian bristley hide
lokian leathery
Now my question is the important stats will be OQ+SR except final combine which will be OQ+SR+DR right?
/dusts off a bunch of heavy extracter deeds and heads over to asiabrothers for a while to figure this out
Message Edited by Capt_Obvious on 04-13-2005 02:47 PM
Got my list with server bests made up and ready for resource hunting.... now lets see them change everything so I waste all these credtis
Capt_Obvious
Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:56 am
#44
Thats the only thing holding me back from going out buying myself 
FishDoc
Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:09 pm
#45
Nice post, but what a joke the Dev's are pulling. All the hard work of gathering resources and they throw wrench into the gears.
Another time stealer, having to harvest all new resources. This is suppose to be a CU not a AS upgrade.
This AS account will soon be no more, I will make enough sets for myself and ADK so I will not ever have to worry about buying armor again.
This is a sad day. I cannot accept these changes to the AS profession.
Keeper32
Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:14 pm
#46
Good job Edsel, bad job Devs... my god 
The resources!
Message Edited by Keeper32 on 04-13-2005 12:34 PM
AndJusticeForAll
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:01 pm
#47
I knocked my prices back 50% of most of my comp, want to clear my inventory of the bulk grind comp before CU.... and all of my premium stun comp. /sniffle (175k for a full suit of 80 ele, 70 base 30 stun..... was selling for 355k last month :/)
Ajo79
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:15 pm
#48
My gawd! So many new resources. Holy *rap!
Well, good work collecting the info.
Devs, why are you making these changes in resources and added even more resource types! It have taken me 6 months to gather the stuff I got. Now I gotta collect another six months! I'd like you to pay for my time. I will not accept the changes.
Named resources in Layers! Nuts! It's hard as it's now and one then have to collect named resources for something that one has to mass produce in great quantities. And also another factory run is needed.
There isn't enough time in the world for me to accept the changes.
With me having a work, there is just not enough time to be a full time smith anymore since I have to start from scratch. I'm furious (and I mean it)! SWG is my practicly the only thing I have time for on my spare timeand you devs are making it a living hell. Thank a bunch 
3brotherwilliam
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:38 pm
#49
Awesome job in grinding, collecting, and processing all the schematic info!
Just one quick question though:
DoOQ and SR of the resources required to make the final appearance for the armor matter for its overal protection, or does that come from just the cores? For example, does the quality of the leather used to make an Ubesejacket in the last stage of construction effect its quality, or does it come only through the quality of the cores used in the Ubese jacket?
Message Edited by 3brotherwilliam on 04-13-2005 04:43 PM
NiBorg
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:41 pm
#50
Just the cores, the skin is just about condition. (as of this moment anyway)
3brotherwilliam
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:45 pm
#51
Damn, I wish they would change that Dant wool to Endorian wool since I'm already sitting on 300k+ of 1900 OQ+SR of it
Brutus_Krylop
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:47 pm
#52
NiBorg wrote:
Just the cores, the skin is just about condition. (as of this moment anyway)
The real question then, is what the range and effecton the condition experimentation is ... if we can increase the base condition by only 10-15%, then we may as well just use 5cpu junk organics. If we can increase condition twofold, then good resources will definitely be demanded.