Armorsmith Archive

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JeCy wrote:

as for amor being the most complicated?? naa no way droids are much more complicated to make.. try 16 factory runs to make a completed R2.. named resorces for anyone that has been in bussiness for 4 months + thats a joke, youi should not complain about a thing.

named resorces does not make something more complicated.. just slightly more specific. and seeing most armorers just make composite,, kinetic layer and stun., not all but most. whats that a total of 10 things you need ohh wait maybe 15 tops?? complicated please give me a break.

Je'Cy Dax

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I actually saw someone wearing composite armor in one of the movies. It looked crappy but he was def. wearing a comp armor helmet, and i think he had some other pieces. I cant remember which movie but i believe it was ep. 1 on tatooine.

Also, why not just make a bonus for everyone when using padded (light armor), and a neg. for everyone when using comp (heavy armor)? Mabe the penalties would be less for a swordsman, and more for a pistoleer when using heavy. The bonus for lighter armor would be higher for pistoleers than for swordsman (since pistoleers are faster than swordsman).

It doesnt make sense to make a swordsman get negative speed by wearing lighter armor, if you want continuity. But you are on the right track.

Also any prof should be able to wear any armor, no reason to keep them from wearing it. Make the penalties hurt enough to stop them.

On a side note the combat revamp will change all of what we know so we dont really need to worry to much.

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Graysoni wrote:
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Here are some ideals on if you made armor Class specific:

Who should Wear: Who Shouldnt Wear:

Composite: Commandos, Rifleman, Swordsman, Pikeman Pistoleer, TKA, Fencer, Carbineer

Padded: All normal RANGED professions, BH Commando, all Melee Professions

Tantel: Mainly Melee Professions. normal Ranged

Ubese: All Melee professions All ranged professions

Bone: Anyone, Universal

Chitin: Commando, Rifle, BH, Sword, Pike Also heavy armor, so no "fast" profs.

Marabiweave: All Ranged proffesions

RIS: BH, Commando, Ranger, Squad Leader

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Excuse me? All Ranged combatants should be using Mabariweave? The armor with no protection against Energy, THE most common ranged attack?

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LostCause21 wrote:

Very nice thread. Those that think buffs are the only problem should probably take a look at how many people would even use your composite armor without buffs. Buffs are saving your butt armorsmiths. Make 90% resist composite and watch buffs get nerfed. Needless to say it would be a uber piece of garbage afterwards. As for the downfalls of what you suggested I also think makes sense. Clod hoppin around in composite doesn't go well in the thought of an agile teras kasi. I know many of you armorsmiths probably don't like his thread. It would hurt your profession just a tad, or maybe its the people who enjoy being nye invulnrable with buffs and 90% comp on. Like he said no where in star wars did anyone see composite. I for one would enjoy seeing the nerf bat knock down the armor a little, along with buffs. Maybe then this game would require more tactics and skill to play.

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Ya nerf Composite, make it so that we have nothing to craft then. Nerfing solves nothing, it breaks more than it fixes. You obviously weren't around for Patch 5 I believe (CH and Creature nerf). Thats why PvE is so easy now. Loved it when Grauls were light armor and I beleive 75% kinetic. Gurrecks and Webmasters with medium armor. Ya, the devs nerfed Creatures because CH's were too powerful, look at everything they screwed up in the process.

If you think the game is to easy with 90% composite and buffs, don't buff or use armor and go hunt Nightsisters or something in a 20 person group.

When was there Chitin Armor? or Bone Armor? or RIS ? I never seen those either. MAybe if they made Faction armor craftable and comparable to composite I'm sure everyone would be wearing it.

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LostCause21 wrote:

When CH was nerfed I was a master CH and the only thing that bothered me was the lack of Bio engineers at the time. Oh and btw I have and still do hunt nightsisters unbuffed and armorless, its called using tactics. Complain all you want about what some think. This game takes little to no skill for 90% of this game with the way armor and buffs are. If you have any more comments try to keep it within the threads main idea. Stop complaining about nerfing. Some like balance.

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Going prone and using Conceal Shot isn't tactics. If this game takes no skill and your game play is ruined because of composite, Star Wars BattleFront came out today (ps. you won't have to worry about uber weapons and armor in the game for PvPing).

Nerfing composite without vamping up the other armors pretty much kills the armorsmith profession. We have been asking for Faction Armor since beta. Maybe adding more loot drops to make the other armor even better: whoopee, Voritor Segments adding 4% kinetic to bone, why not more loots to get Chitin with a 65k condition and/or 80% kinetic? 99% of the enhancements are pure garbage.

Message Edited by Ryche_Mykola on 09-21-2004 08:04 PM

Concealshot isn't the way true 1337 alt-forum accounts made only for stirring up trouble play. Concealshot often creates a bleed that will aggro a mob onto you, the real 1337y Mc1337s use a combination of headshot3 and warning shot, until the elder's pathing routines get bugged and they default to walking rather than running, after that it's supremely easy to kite them.

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Graysoni wrote:

Thanks Lost cause for your support.

But let me state again, IM NOT SAYING NERF COMPOSITE. All Im saying is make it so a TKA or fencer or pistoller cant use it, and make the other armors worth using.

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Ahem, Excuse me.

Why not make it so only ranged can use it. Would sorta balance out all the melee is king thing. One would think that swingin a sword, doin all them stances and jujitsu sh*t would require alot of movement. Firing a rifle or a pistol for that matter doesn't take a whole lot of reflexes.
Mando armor is pretty heavy and it didn't seem to stop Jango from using his pistols to great effect.