Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Official word on PSG's, lightsaber resists and anti-decay kits?
Suba
Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:53 am
#27
PSGs were stated they arent suppoed to hve LS resists. and stated they are then stated they arent.
You "Babies" as you called us Jedi keep shoving In Development Documents in our Face that say they were gonna. Those documents were written as General Knowledge stuff that wasnt written in stone many months before publish 9 etc. Those same exact Documents stated Jedi would get High End COmposite Equivelent robes.
Niether happened then TH stated PSGS arent supposed to have LS resists.
SO why dont you shut up you "Babies" and accept it. You guys can fight anything in the game with you 80-90% armor resists and 3K buffs. Jedi have to fight the same stuff with 3K buffs and 0 Armor resists.
You "Babies" as you called us Jedi keep shoving In Development Documents in our Face that say they were gonna. Those documents were written as General Knowledge stuff that wasnt written in stone many months before publish 9 etc. Those same exact Documents stated Jedi would get High End COmposite Equivelent robes.
Niether happened then TH stated PSGS arent supposed to have LS resists.
SO why dont you shut up you "Babies" and accept it. You guys can fight anything in the game with you 80-90% armor resists and 3K buffs. Jedi have to fight the same stuff with 3K buffs and 0 Armor resists.
Suba
Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:09 pm
#28
You know nothing of jedi if you assume dervish 2 is all we use. The fact of thematter is dervish 2 is the most powerful attack yes but not not th emost useful in all situations.
I dont see what the Immortal lightsabers have anything to do with PSGs so please stop trying to change the subject thanks.
Pre Publish 9 Indevelopment Documents suggested Jedi will get High End Composite equivelant Armor and in turn PSGS would have LS resists. Jedi didnt get thier armor and it was determined PSGs dont get the resists. So why dont you take your anti-jedi bias and go elsewhere. 3K buffs dont help a jedi when you eye shot me for 900 damage and i have no resists to lower that I suddenly lose 900 Mind. Now you want it so I hit you for a max of like 500-600 and you get to absorb 90% of that?
Thats the issue here you scream balance yet when it comes time to really balance you stop calling for it and scream nerf for one side. Please join WoW or another online game and leave galaxies to people who care.
I dont see what the Immortal lightsabers have anything to do with PSGs so please stop trying to change the subject thanks.
Pre Publish 9 Indevelopment Documents suggested Jedi will get High End Composite equivelant Armor and in turn PSGS would have LS resists. Jedi didnt get thier armor and it was determined PSGs dont get the resists. So why dont you take your anti-jedi bias and go elsewhere. 3K buffs dont help a jedi when you eye shot me for 900 damage and i have no resists to lower that I suddenly lose 900 Mind. Now you want it so I hit you for a max of like 500-600 and you get to absorb 90% of that?
Thats the issue here you scream balance yet when it comes time to really balance you stop calling for it and scream nerf for one side. Please join WoW or another online game and leave galaxies to people who care.
Message Edited by Suba on 02-15-2005 02:12 PM
WolfGuy
Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:49 pm
#29
Please take all Jedi and BH discussions to a different board.
As fas as the latest information from the DEVs, Skinnymando's post I believe is the most current stating that PSGs are, in fact, supposed to be able to have LS resistance. This follows movie and EU cannon as far as I know.
Jedi think they have it tough with 60% LS resist PSGs? Eat me. Try fighting 90% base comp and a 60% PSG, do the math... an AP0 weapon with do less than 1% damage. LS are AP2 and are ONLY resisted by PSGs. Take your whining to the Jedi or BH boards or go back to camping starports, POI or KSing people and generally hurting the game for most people.
As fas as the latest information from the DEVs, Skinnymando's post I believe is the most current stating that PSGs are, in fact, supposed to be able to have LS resistance. This follows movie and EU cannon as far as I know.
Jedi think they have it tough with 60% LS resist PSGs? Eat me. Try fighting 90% base comp and a 60% PSG, do the math... an AP0 weapon with do less than 1% damage. LS are AP2 and are ONLY resisted by PSGs. Take your whining to the Jedi or BH boards or go back to camping starports, POI or KSing people and generally hurting the game for most people.
Suba
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:20 pm
#30
First off you can report me if you like. i hope you report yourself too as you brought the jedi here with your smartass iwin button comments.
1. Armorsmith forums are to discuss all things about armor. That Does not Mean Armorsmiths only. if that was case then fine. The fact this Thread deals with Lightsaber Damage which is a JEDI only damage means Jedi have a right to speak thier mind. Non jedi have 0 knowledge of the system and it shows very much so.
2. I didnt come here wanting a flame war. I came here to express opinions. When its your high and mighty armorsmiths calling jedis babies,your making IWIN button comments etc you people drag the threads into the Flame War section.
Now To the real issue and off the retarded flame war stuff.
PSGs in general Shouldnt be available for Anti-Decay Kits. The Role of the PSG was ot be a shortterm Resists boost for Combatants. As Wolfguy Stated Invincible PSGs imbalance everything for everyone.
Armor is already Overpowered as the developers have stated. Composite etc was never meant to reach 90%. That not directly relate dto jedi presents an issue for non jedi. As Stated 90% base comp and a 60% PSG, do the math... an AP0 weapon with do less than 1% damage.
PSGs were given like 2000 Condition cause as stated they were to be short term defense boosts. Now were seeing people wanting thier permanent extra 60% on top of already uber armor. This is highly imbalanced for all sides. an invulnerable PSG offers better resists then majority of the Armor types and allows a player to not even have to wear armor if they choose not too.
As far as lightsaber resists go there is no Full yes or No so to say so is to lie. In Development documents stated that it was being looked at for PSGs. then When the publish came out it was said no they wont have LS resists. then when people complained TH said he woul dlook into the posibility. He never said yes it would get LS resists readded to it. As it stands Pople have asked the developers to thier face regarding the issue and like many other topics they have chosen to ignore the community. So until there is an answer to Say they are supposed to is irresponsible of the Correspondent and has caused half the issues on the forums currently.
1. Armorsmith forums are to discuss all things about armor. That Does not Mean Armorsmiths only. if that was case then fine. The fact this Thread deals with Lightsaber Damage which is a JEDI only damage means Jedi have a right to speak thier mind. Non jedi have 0 knowledge of the system and it shows very much so.
2. I didnt come here wanting a flame war. I came here to express opinions. When its your high and mighty armorsmiths calling jedis babies,your making IWIN button comments etc you people drag the threads into the Flame War section.
Now To the real issue and off the retarded flame war stuff.
PSGs in general Shouldnt be available for Anti-Decay Kits. The Role of the PSG was ot be a shortterm Resists boost for Combatants. As Wolfguy Stated Invincible PSGs imbalance everything for everyone.
Armor is already Overpowered as the developers have stated. Composite etc was never meant to reach 90%. That not directly relate dto jedi presents an issue for non jedi. As Stated 90% base comp and a 60% PSG, do the math... an AP0 weapon with do less than 1% damage.
PSGs were given like 2000 Condition cause as stated they were to be short term defense boosts. Now were seeing people wanting thier permanent extra 60% on top of already uber armor. This is highly imbalanced for all sides. an invulnerable PSG offers better resists then majority of the Armor types and allows a player to not even have to wear armor if they choose not too.
As far as lightsaber resists go there is no Full yes or No so to say so is to lie. In Development documents stated that it was being looked at for PSGs. then When the publish came out it was said no they wont have LS resists. then when people complained TH said he woul dlook into the posibility. He never said yes it would get LS resists readded to it. As it stands Pople have asked the developers to thier face regarding the issue and like many other topics they have chosen to ignore the community. So until there is an answer to Say they are supposed to is irresponsible of the Correspondent and has caused half the issues on the forums currently.
TheFightingCorcoran
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:30 pm
#31
Suba wrote:
First off you can report me if you like. i hope you report yourself too as you brought the jedi here with your smartass iwin button comments.
1. Armorsmith forums are to discuss all things about armor. That Does not Mean Armorsmiths only. if that was case then fine. The fact this Thread deals with Lightsaber Damage which is a JEDI only damage means Jedi have a right to speak thier mind. Non jedi have 0 knowledge of the system and it shows very much so.
2. I didnt come here wanting a flame war. I came here to express opinions. When its your high and mighty armorsmiths calling jedis babies,your making IWIN button comments etc you people drag the threads into the Flame War section.
Now To the real issue and off the retarded flame war stuff.
PSGs in general Shouldnt be available for Anti-Decay Kits. The Role of the PSG was ot be a shortterm Resists boost for Combatants. As Wolfguy Stated Invincible PSGs imbalance everything for everyone.
Armor is already Overpowered as the developers have stated. Composite etc was never meant to reach 90%. That not directly relate dto jedi presents an issue for non jedi. As Stated 90% base comp and a 60% PSG, do the math... an AP0 weapon with do less than 1% damage.
PSGs were given like 2000 Condition cause as stated they were to be short term defense boosts. Now were seeing people wanting thier permanent extra 60% on top of already uber armor. This is highly imbalanced for all sides. an invulnerable PSG offers better resists then majority of the Armor types and allows a player to not even have to wear armor if they choose not too.
As far as lightsaber resists go there is no Full yes or No so to say so is to lie. In Development documents stated that it was being looked at for PSGs. then When the publish came out it was said no they wont have LS resists. then when people complained TH said he woul dlook into the posibility. He never said yes it would get LS resists readded to it. As it stands Pople have asked the developers to thier face regarding the issue and like many other topics they have chosen to ignore the community. So until there is an answer to Say they are supposed to is irresponsible of the Correspondent and has caused half the issues on the forums currently.
Nobody wants to hear it. Be glad you even have a Jedi. Im gonna be a good boy and listen to the AS cor.
Btw, Valcyn pwns
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Suba
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:47 pm
#32
I brought up very valid points on what the role of the PSG was to be so if you dont have any constructive comments dont post as the AS asked.
The Anti-Decay kit in principle hurts the Armorsmith community more then any other Crafting Profession. As a Weaponsmith you make many types of guns and melee weapons. With few expceptions most combat professions require multiple types of weapons so the Combat Types will be required to have thier 1 uber weapon thats decay proof then thier other damage type weapons decay unless they shell out the insane amounts for other peoples kits.
Now the problem for the Armorsmith is the Shield Gen in itself was designed to max at about 3500 Condition. They were intended to be short term boosts to armor. PSGs can have upto 60% stun resist for instance after being sliced. That is more powerful then the best composite armors by almost double. Put your infinite condition ki ton there and you raise a huge issue for armorsmiths. people arent gonna need to start buying armor as that PSG will do a good job of its own.
I mainatin My jedi Character and my Pistoleer Alt. as such I can see huge issues. When wearing a Shield Generator it takes damage before the armor does in all the tests ive seen. Because it is technically covering all the armor. a Side affect to this is the shield generator will always be hit but not decay so the armor beneath it will never decay. That means theres no armor being bought at all. This affects the Armorsmiths greatly. Might want to read what I say as you hould be concerned with it.
The Anti-Decay kit in principle hurts the Armorsmith community more then any other Crafting Profession. As a Weaponsmith you make many types of guns and melee weapons. With few expceptions most combat professions require multiple types of weapons so the Combat Types will be required to have thier 1 uber weapon thats decay proof then thier other damage type weapons decay unless they shell out the insane amounts for other peoples kits.
Now the problem for the Armorsmith is the Shield Gen in itself was designed to max at about 3500 Condition. They were intended to be short term boosts to armor. PSGs can have upto 60% stun resist for instance after being sliced. That is more powerful then the best composite armors by almost double. Put your infinite condition ki ton there and you raise a huge issue for armorsmiths. people arent gonna need to start buying armor as that PSG will do a good job of its own.
I mainatin My jedi Character and my Pistoleer Alt. as such I can see huge issues. When wearing a Shield Generator it takes damage before the armor does in all the tests ive seen. Because it is technically covering all the armor. a Side affect to this is the shield generator will always be hit but not decay so the armor beneath it will never decay. That means theres no armor being bought at all. This affects the Armorsmiths greatly. Might want to read what I say as you hould be concerned with it.
TheFightingCorcoran
Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:00 pm
#33
Suba wrote:
I brought up very valid points on what the role of the PSG was to be so if you dont have any constructive comments dont post as the AS asked.
The Anti-Decay kit in principle hurts the Armorsmith community more then any other Crafting Profession. As a Weaponsmith you make many types of guns and melee weapons. With few expceptions most combat professions require multiple types of weapons so the Combat Types will be required to have thier 1 uber weapon thats decay proof then thier other damage type weapons decay unless they shell out the insane amounts for other peoples kits.
Now the problem for the Armorsmith is the Shield Gen in itself was designed to max at about 3500 Condition. They were intended to be short term boosts to armor. PSGs can have upto 60% stun resist for instance after being sliced. That is more powerful then the best composite armors by almost double. Put your infinite condition ki ton there and you raise a huge issue for armorsmiths. people arent gonna need to start buying armor as that PSG will do a good job of its own.
I mainatin My jedi Character and my Pistoleer Alt. as such I can see huge issues. When wearing a Shield Generator it takes damage before the armor does in all the tests ive seen. Because it is technically covering all the armor. a Side affect to this is the shield generator will always be hit but not decay so the armor beneath it will never decay. That means theres no armor being bought at all. This affects the Armorsmiths greatly. Might want to read what I say as you hould be concerned with it.
Dont speak for the AS's. And your points are crap. There is ONE thread in the fencer forum about this issue, maybe a billion in the jedi forum. The fact is the AD kits benefit you more than harm you. You never have to replace yur crystals.
Everyone is sick of the jedi whining when they don't get their way, if you cant slice and dice everything you have to cry about it.
Go sob with your friends on the jedi forums, but when you come to other boards leave your load of crap at the door.
And no it does not cover the armor. Armor will still be hit.
There will be either be no change in PSG sales or a boost, as ppl ill be constantly destroying/replacing PSGs for the LS resists.
If AD kits are to be removed from PSGs, then I want the same to happen to LS's. Only fair.
Teioh
Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:20 pm
#34
Don't bother fighting with corco suba, your points actually use logic, his are just incoherent ramblings about his hatred for jedi.
The stuff he is saying shows just how ignorant he is.
Okram, the second you said the IWIN comment, it became about jedi. Do you think we're just going to stand idly by while you try and nerf us?
The stuff he is saying shows just how ignorant he is.
Okram, the second you said the IWIN comment, it became about jedi. Do you think we're just going to stand idly by while you try and nerf us?
Message Edited by Teioh on 02-15-2005 04:21 PM
siovhan
Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:25 pm
#35
Okram2k, your title says that you are a correspondant. If you have something interesting to inform us about on this topic then please do. If not, go find something out. As you have clearly stated, you are NOT a moderator for these forums so stop attempting to moderate. You do not have any authority whatsoever to control the direction of these posts as long as the language is within the SOE terms of use. ANYONE may post in ANY forum they like. The only thing SOE has asked is that we stick to the topic. The topic says "Official word on PSG's, lightsaber resists and anti-decay kits?" Suba is just trying to get his opinion out. You have no right to silence him and tell him to leave because of his profession. You have no authority here and are instead a privelaged individual who has been asked to participate in the developement (betterment) of the game and to be a correspondent to inform us of developements concerning AS' and to take our concerns/ideas to the devs for consideration. It is the responsibility of everyone to report abuse on these forums. You dont need to threaten us with it. We already know..... as I have already reported TheFightingCorcoran for his abusive language:
"SOE still whipes your ass for you"
"quit whining about yur robes too. Punks."
"Im on the AS forums cuz I have an AS alt, dumbass"
"Dont speak for the AS's. And your points are crap."
I guess he just wants people to buy his armorsmith goods, stay out of the forum (where they try to keep up on trends and information about something important to their well being while in battle) and keep their mouths shut. Any commentsabout armorsmithing by non-armor crafters is pointless to him. Apparently we dont have the intelligence to understand the vast complexities of how armor and damage works.We just put it on and spam a lot of attacks and hope for the best and when it wears out we mindlessly purchase more.
And you lied. You arent a good boy and arent listening to your AS correspondent.
Okram2k
Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:31 pm
#36
siovhan wrote:Okram2k, your title says that you are a correspondant. If you have something interesting to inform us about on this topic then please do. If not, go find something out. As you have clearly stated, you are NOT a moderator for these forums so stop attempting to moderate. You do not have any authority whatsoever to control the direction of these posts as long as the language is within the SOE terms of use. ANYONE may post in ANY forum they like. The only thing SOE has asked is that we stick to the topic. The topic says "Official word on PSG's, lightsaber resists and anti-decay kits?" Suba is just trying to get his opinion out. You have no right to silence him and tell him to leave because of his profession. You have no authority here and are instead a privelaged individual who has been asked to participate in the developement (betterment) of the game and to be a correspondent to inform us of developements concerning AS' and to take our concerns/ideas to the devs for consideration. It is the responsibility of everyone to report abuse on these forums. You dont need to threaten us with it. We already know..... as I have already reported TheFightingCorcoran for his abusive language:"SOE still whipes your ass for you""quit whining about yur robes too. Punks.""Im on the AS forums cuz I have an AS alt, dumbass""Dont speak for the AS's. And your points are crap."I guess he just wants people to buy his armorsmith goods, stay out of the forum (where they try to keep up on trends and information about something important to their well being while in battle) and keep their mouths shut. Any comments about armorsmithing by non-armor crafters is pointless to him. Apparently we dont have the intelligence to understand the vast complexities of how armor and damage works. We just put it on and spam a lot of attacks and hope for the best and when it wears out we mindlessly purchase more.And you lied. You arent a good boy and arent listening to your AS correspondent.
problem is, I have to go through several steps in order to quote things developers say in locked forums. They have said things regarding this issue, I am getting permision to post it. It does back up what I said concerning PSGs at the begining of this thread before people began arguing about LS resistances. And the continue to agrgue about what devs have said about ls resistances.
Message Edited by Okram2k on 02-15-2005 05:36 PM
Suba
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:03 pm
#38
Problem Okram2k is we see the same locked threads and they dont give a guarantee danswer like you claim.
TH says 1 day NO LS resist then says maybe. there is no YES or NO. the developers are skipping answering the question as they have all along so please post from locked threads we see them too and know there isnt a yes or no for sure
TH says 1 day NO LS resist then says maybe. there is no YES or NO. the developers are skipping answering the question as they have all along so please post from locked threads we see them too and know there isnt a yes or no for sure
Message Edited by Suba on 02-15-2005 05:05 PM
Okram2k
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:04 pm
#39
no, not locked posts, from the correspondant forums that everyone else is locked out of.