Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Well...Word is out. Might as well Respec now. The AS profession will soon be dead.Tested aug17
LeviticusD wrote:
Can 1/1 armor "break" and go to 0/1?
Nope, it will always stay 1/1.
I'm betting there's a world of difference in the way the game views 1/1 and 0/1. As an earlier poster said, 1/1 is 100 percent condition.
pykescylla wrote:
Just to clarify, we're talking 1/1 condition armor, not 0 condition armor. I don't have any of that to test.
it was 1/1 condition armor i tested
Quizz wrote:
pykescylla wrote:
Just to clarify, we're talking 1/1 condition armor, not 0 condition armor. I don't have any of that to test.
it was 1/1 condition armor i tested
Now that it has been tested and the test clarified... As I said it needs to posted to the Current bug list... Here and unfortunately for everyone to see in the current patch bug thread... If it had of been tested earlier and posted about it could have probably been addressed in tonights patch leaving a whole lot of exploiters hurting... because that is exactly what they are doing by knowing it is broken and not reporting it...
Wolfe26 wrote:
Quizz wrote:
pykescylla wrote:
Just to clarify, we're talking 1/1 condition armor, not 0 condition armor. I don't have any of that to test.
it was 1/1 condition armor i tested
Now that it has been tested and the test clarified... As I said it needs to posted to the Current bug list... Here and unfortunately for everyone to see in the current patch bug thread... If it had of been tested earlier and posted about it could have probably been addressed in tonights patch leaving a whole lot of exploiters hurting... because that is exactly what they are doing by knowing it is broken and not reporting it...
Quizz,
I'm not trying to start a flame war either but.... If you want to be taken seriously don't come in here screaming the sky is falling respec now.... Alot of us have endured bug on top of bug on top of bug for SOE and heard the cry every time...
Otherwise good job finding it...
i may be wrong but ive never seen 0/1 condition armor b4. only 1/1 or ive even seen negativexx/1.
And this problem has been here since CU when i first tested it and i know of others of have used 1/1 armor since CU. What makes u think this will be fixed with today's patch when its been known since CU. I'm worried that they have known this siince CU and we still havent got a fix for it. And more and more people are taking advantage of it.
The only discussion we ever had on it, Caile asked to have the thread deleted cause he felt it would be devasting to our profession.Here more then a month after since that discussion andwe have no fix. once its 1/1 u cant get it to 0/1, at least from what ive tried. So u basically have a 9 piece adk suit.
Now if this isnt the worst thing for our profession, then what is, i ask u?
Becuase they belive they need armor.The only time Armor truely makes a difference is when you are 1 on 1 fighting a mob that is about your level, or a hords os lower level mobs. People has always used armor and belive they still do. You can tell them otherwise but you might as well tell them the world is round.
Quizz wrote:
Considering that probably 95% of peeps are group pve grinding why would they need much protetction. A lot of my customers are happy if they can survive a few hits and hope that the rest of the group can share the damage dealt. This has been brought up to me by several people. So many people dont require a whole lot of protection.
I'm not really concerened about the sales but more with armor working as they are intended.
Will get back with some screenies on test rsults and hopefully we can determine the extent of this problem
ravingbantha wrote:
Becuase they belive they need armor.The only time Armor truely makes a difference is when you are 1 on 1 fighting a mob that is about your level, or a hords os lower level mobs. People has always used armor and belive they still do. You can tell them otherwise but you might as well tell them the world is round.
Quizz wrote:
Considering that probably 95% of peeps are group pve grinding why would they need much protetction. A lot of my customers are happy if they can survive a few hits and hope that the rest of the group can share the damage dealt. This has been brought up to me by several people. So many people dont require a whole lot of protection.
I'm not really concerened about the sales but more with armor working as they are intended.
Will get back with some screenies on test rsults and hopefully we can determine the extent of this problem
The world isn't round?
/stepsbackfromedge
MonKaiku wrote:I had 5/7 peice of armor in ADK (was waiting for health enhancers to be fixed) and all of the sudden I was getting worked over by BH marks that I would normally trash. It took me a while to figure out what was going on, but the two peices of armor were at 0 condition. I replaced those peices and havent had a problemI refuse to believe that 0 condition armor offers any protection at all whatsoever based on my personal experience and getting trashed while wearing 0 condition armor (it was a helmet and pants if anyone cares)get some hard numbers and maybe, but I have tested 0 condition armor (not on purpose) and I can say that there were some huge hits getting through.sales have been brisk,
Same thing happened to me with my BH marks. Swapped out that 0 cond helm and I was back in action.
Rancor418 wrote:
MonKaiku wrote:
I had 5/7 peice of armor in ADK (was waiting for health enhancers to be fixed) and all of the sudden I was getting worked over by BH marks that I would normally trash. It took me a while to figure out what was going on, but the two peices of armor were at 0 condition. I replaced those peices and havent had a problem
I refuse to believe that 0 condition armor offers any protection at all whatsoever based on my personal experience and getting trashed while wearing 0 condition armor (it was a helmet and pants if anyone cares)
get some hard numbers and maybe, but I have tested 0 condition armor (not on purpose) and I can say that there were some huge hits getting through.
sales have been brisk,
Same thing happened to me with my BH marks. Swapped out that 0 cond helm and I was back in action.
im not saying 0/1 condition is preventing dmg, im saying condition 1/1 is preventing full damage. u get 1/1 condition when you repair armor and it completely fails. once u have 1/1 it will never change even if u get hit, not even from decay when u clone. so as 1/1 the game is thinking its 100% condition and is absorbing ful damage. I call this the poor man's adk bug/exploit.
bah.. i give up trying to explain this and how this is already being taken adavntage of by many people and how it will only get worse, and when that time comes everyone will be up in arms.
Nothing gets fixed in this game unless several tickets and discussions like this exist. And we as a community tend to be laid back then other professions.
Message Edited by Quizz on 08-17-2005 11:13 PM
Well guys. I ve tested it personally and found out that armor still protects as if it was new with condition 1/1. i had a bud shoot me and i was absorbing 56.1% damage. i then took my pants and broke it by using a crappy repair kit. it resulted in condition 1/1 and the stats didnt even change. i then equiped only that broken piece of armor and had my bud shoot me again with the same attack and weapon. i looked at my combat logged and noticed when my one equiped piece of broken armor got hit its was still absorbing 56.1% energy as if was still new.
Dont kid your selves with rumors, go and test it for yourself. I hate to say, "the sky is falling," but this is devasting to our profession. Like i said word is out and people know about this bug as it has been brought up to me in game by several people. so dont blame jedi unlocking for lack of sales but for people knowing that broken armor still works like new. And if your sales are not affected it will only be a matter of time.