Armorsmith Archive

Thread: Plea to the devs: Lack of resources ruining fun.

KauriChumm
Thu May 06, 2004 11:52 am
#27

You may also want to make friends with an AS, or get in a guild if you're not in one. I've been an AS for about 3 weeks, and 2 weeks into my career I had my first run of 50 64% ubese suits. No they're not the best, but I gathered all the resources myself except for axidite iron, which has been a bit lacking on Kauri. Alot of it was buying resources, paying 10cpu for Neutronium and hunting the hides myself, as well as running as many harvestors as possible, but I got the run out (Now if only they'd sell...)

The point is I wouldn't be making advanced ubese if my guild AS didn't contribute some of his Axidite stock (not much, it takes 25K for a 50 suit run). Now I can wait patiently (And start to work on comp) for a new spawn of axidite. I have found that playing the AS full time can be a bit boring, since I want to master Artisan and Merchant, as well as get 0304 tailor, which will take 235 SP, and if you have nothing to craft, what do you do? I picked up another account for combat , plus 10 more lots. Of course you could play your jedi Nerf, but I understand, I don't play mine either...



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Srednii
Thu May 06, 2004 1:23 pm
#28

meh,6 months after my resource collecting began and I'm still not making composite. My 75% ubese is good enough for now, tho that only started a couple months ago. ie: I had to spend 2 or 3months collecting resources before I started making anything, and I got lucky with a good spawn of axidite.


I could probably make composite right now, but all my resources but one are 900+oq stuff, so I'm still waiting on a good spawn of beyrillius to make high quality composite rather then waste high qual materials to make just good quality stuff.


And now that I'm making high quality ubese, and only 1 resource away from making high quality composite I don't want it to be easy for some johnny come lately armorsmith to just breaze in and a month after he starts to be producing armor as good as mine.



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MasterNerfSlayer
Thu May 06, 2004 7:38 pm
#29






CodeMan47 wrote:
Does anyone else get really annoyed when new AS have their panties in a bunch because they can't make the best composite right away? Took me 3 weeks to finally get resources to make Composite back in August, then I got to make my awesome 34% Advanced suits It just takes time to get the resources and then you can make Advanced Comp and Ubese, etc...







In case you didn't read my post, and I can tell you didn't, I don't want to be able to make the best straight away. Collecting the resources for the best takes time, I know this from being a master doc. I just want to make some composite, I don't care if it's 20% resist.


Wow. only 3 weeks to collect resources eh? That must have been tough. You don't have a problem paying a monthly fee to be able to sit around doing nothing? I do.Games are about fun, and I certainly don't expect to walk right into the best resources available, but I do expect to have something to work with, if I am to have any fun. Sure I can go make some bone armour... or mabari ... I even made some non-advanced ubese. But to go this long without even low quality resources... I know the game suffered problems in the early days, I'm asking for that problem to be fixed. We were all here for non-spawning resources, and I say it's time something was done about it. That's all, unless of course, you're one of these billionaire armoursmiths who like the "now that I'm rich, lets make it hard for the new guy" kind of people. And I suspect you are.

Message Edited by MasterNerfSlayer on 05-07-2004 01:48 PM




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MasterNerfSlayer
Thu May 06, 2004 7:40 pm
#30






AegolinAdaron wrote:





MasterNerfSlayer wrote:

Well, I've been a master armoursmith for 5 weeks now. I have yet to make any advanced ubese, or any kind of composite armour whatsoever. Why not? lack of desire? no. lack of skill? no. lack of tools? no. too lazy to go look for resources? no. physical lack of resources? yes.


This is a game, games are about fun. I don't mind shortages of resources, most of us would consider say, OQ 400 axidite iron to be a lack of resources... but no... 5 weeks without axidite iron spawning at all, 5 weeks (and who knows how long it has been missing) without beryllius copper (which finally spawned a day ago) and many other resources (dolovite ironif you're a doc) have only just started spawning in months.


All I ask is that they look at the code for this and perhaps change it so there is a higher chance of low quality resource spawning, rather than not spawning it at all, because its just plain no fun to not be even able to make low quality items. If they can't do this, at least tell us why we have to go months without critical resources spawning.







Oh and you may want to pay attention to what spawns when and where. According to swgcraft.com axidite iron and beyrrlius copper have been spawning all over the place almost every month on Starsider.


Emily







I am one of the top resource contributors on swgcraft.com. I know when the resources are spawning. "Almost every month" is just not good enough.The last spawn of itwas just before easter.




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MasterNerfSlayer
Thu May 06, 2004 7:42 pm
#31






StarchMonkey wrote:





MasterNerfSlayer wrote:

Well, I've been a master armoursmith for 5 weeks now. I have yet to make any advanced ubese, or any kind of composite armour whatsoever. Why not? lack of desire? no. lack of skill? no. lack of tools? no. too lazy to go look for resources? no. physical lack of resources? yes.


This is a game, games are about fun. I don't mind shortages of resources, most of us would consider say, OQ 400 axidite iron to be a lack of resources... but no... 5 weeks without axidite iron spawning at all, 5 weeks (and who knows how long it has been missing) without beryllius copper (which finally spawned a day ago) and many other resources (dolovite ironif you're a doc) have only just started spawning in months.


All I ask is that they look at the code for this and perhaps change it so there is a higher chance of low quality resource spawning, rather than not spawning it at all, because its just plain no fun to not be even able to make low quality items. If they can't do this, at least tell us why we have to go months without critical resources spawning.





Sorry dude, I'm not trying to flame, but you really need to look harder. There was a spawn of Axidite on Talus like 2 or 3 weeks ago... It was crappy, but it was Axidite. I'm mining Neutronium Steel right now on Tatooine. Its actually decent stuff. Now I need to go off to Dathomir to get that new 902 OQ Colat Iron.








That's ok. I wont take it as a flame. Yes there was axidite on talus. but it was easter weekend, not 2 weeks ago.




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MasterNerfSlayer
Thu May 06, 2004 8:00 pm
#32






DirthNader wrote:





Andymantium wrote:



Actually, I find that since so many armorsmiths on my server are onlymaking layered composite, that the mid-range market is being somewhat ignored. So, I made a run of a hundred or so unlayered composite suits and threw them on my vendor for 175k a suit (they're packaged in backpacks - all stats listed). They sell quite well.





I was thinking about this as well. I noticed I have large stocks of the second best of every resource required for advanced comp, except for wooly and intrusive, which are in shift with good stats. I may just make some unlayered advanced comp out of them and sell them off at around 100K a set.


Could be fun to squeeze the middle of the market while still cranking out high-end stuff with the best resources the server has ever seen. Frankly, I think Shadowfire has a huge glut of mid-level MAS's, and it may be time to get dirty and try to thin out the ranks a bit before they catch up .






It's good to know that your sense of fun involves making others suffer. I bet you're a terminal griefing mission stealer too.





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DirthNader
Thu May 06, 2004 8:15 pm
#33






MasterNerfSlayer wrote:

It's good to know that your sense of fun involves making others suffer. I bet you're a terminal griefing mission stealer too.






How will I make them suffer? By bringing in another option to a segment of the market often forgotten by established "arch-smiths"? By forcing their prices downby added competition?


Thisis the exact same thing that every new smith does when they finally aquire the resources to make the best armor on the server.So when they come into my market segment and drive my prices down more, can I come here and cry on your shoulder aboutothers making me suffer?


Get over yourself.



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DirthNader
Thu May 06, 2004 8:18 pm
#34






MasterNerfSlayer wrote:




....unless you're one of these billionaire armoursmiths who like the "now that I'm rich, lets make it hard for the new guy" kind of people. And I suspect you are.




No, I suspect he's one of the "I did it, so can they" type armorsmiths.




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Srednii
Thu May 06, 2004 9:37 pm
#35






hopnasty wrote:





Srednii wrote:

I could probably make composite right now, but all my resources but one are 900+oq stuff, so I'm still waiting on a good spawn of beyrillius to make high quality composite rather then waste high qual materials to make just good quality stuff.




Don't wait. Beryllius Copper looks to have a gated cap on SR of around 475.


When making Composite, Beryllius Copper takes lesser amounts than all the other resources (except for wooly). So during the combine, it's resource stats weigh the least (again, except for wooly). If everything else is 900 OQ & SR, then I would say go for it. Since it's such a rare spawn, go with what you've got. It will only amount to maybe 1%-2% difference IMHO.






no worries , my beyrillus stock is 400ish oq/400ish shock. All I'm waiting on is 900+ oq beyrillus. Hell, I'm impatient enough I'd probablly work with 700+ oq beyrllius if I could mine it. I'm kinda tempted to track some down to buy, but as I'm only an 11 point smith I've still gotta save all my penny's for skill attachments



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Tuanga
Thu May 06, 2004 11:07 pm
#36

MasterNerfSlayer I don't think pissing off the established Armorsmiths will win you any love here.



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CodeMan47
Thu May 06, 2004 11:16 pm
#37

"Wow. only 3 weeks to collect resources eh? That must have been tough. "


Yeah well you little piss ant I didn't get to grind through AS in a day or 2 either.

ChryssSR
Thu May 06, 2004 11:33 pm
#38






Andymantium wrote:





KryssPteska wrote:

/slap andymantium

i actually spent 3 weeks looking for that resource, i asked about 30 people......karbine....tarien....bunch of others......it got to the point where i was asking cuatro and Fl....and they wouldnt sell it. grrr.....ah well, my stun armor still ended up being 35% stun




/pointat Oigan
/laugh


/flex



I'm actually really low on my stock now, or I'd offer you some.







Me too. I somehow managed to sleep through that spawn and had to buy everything I have off the bazaar...and there was bloody little of it.




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MasterNerfSlayer
Thu May 06, 2004 11:57 pm
#39






Tuanga wrote:
MasterNerfSlayer I don't think pissing off the established Armorsmiths will win you any love here.






After reading the replies I got to what I thought was a general concern amongst all users of resources, I no longer care whoI upset. I am not making armour to sell, only to supply my guild. I don't think there is anything I can do to win popularity here, it seems the majority of established armoursmiths would rather see people suffer months of no resources like they did than see any kind of improvement to the game. I saw the same thing in the bounty hunter community, and also the jedi community. I think these are the same people that like to sit and wait 10 minutes for a shuttle. I'm almost sorry I even bother reading these forums any more.




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