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Thread: Wookiee armor

arobus06
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:02 pm
#352

oh and on that Star Warsyness BS excuse, when was the last time you watched a Star Wars movie and saw every person runnning around in full suits of Comp Armor shouting to get buffed? or seen bout 200 people outside a starport shouting how they need training or their shope is at #### #### and you should go by and check it out?? Stop hating the wookiee, like CPO said, "Let the Wookiee Win".




Arobus - Shadowfire


(I'm the nerd you here about waiting for 2 days to get tickets to the midnight showing while talking bout that galaxie far far away with another SW Nerd so dont talk to me about Star Warsy feel:smileymad





P.S. the max I have waited for a ticket has been 4 hours, I'm glad I live in the middle of nowhere



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Kershakk
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:15 pm
#353






waaha wrote:





Kershakk wrote:


Basing your idea on flow on a single wookiee, Chewbacca, is such a fallacy I can't believe you can even say it with a straight face.





I believe all wookies in this game should have some option for armor yes,,,,,,


, but for the record, in starwar'y spirt no wookies wore armor.....so one could base that not just by chewy







How about this then - this is a game first, and your star warsy feel and touchy goodness second. I can't enjoy any high level content at all because I die instantaneously. To lobby to cut off entire and new areas of the game to a person who happens to play a particular race is sheer selfishness and prejudice (not pointing at you btw).


I get targetted specifically because I'm an easy kill. Exactly when in your Star Warsy feel were wookiees considered lemmings?


Take a look at what YOU do specifically, your character, your inventory, you tell me you strictly are Star Warsy. Really. But thats ok I guess coz it's in your favour right?

ByygPapa
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:24 pm
#354

oh please


the trolls on thisthread dont care about fair


any first grader can do the math to tell you that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING would be "side effected" by giving wookiees the exact same armor as humans and making it cost a compensatory ham amount (apparently 13% more, according to most on these boards)


the rest of this crap is just as much smokescreen as they can muster to try to keep their huge advantage over wookiees


to wit:


non wookiee + armor = wookiee + (armor + 700 encumbrance)


now they wanna call this unfair because "then the wookiees can take off the armor and have a ham advantage"


but they didnt care about that already-present ham advantage when they could put on their armor and laugh at it, did they?


no, they didnt.


and, as has been posted already, it isnt that much of an advantage


everybody says 90% resists are impossible to get...fine


just for the sake of argument about this stupid ham edge, lets assume armor is capped at 60% (lol) resists...


now one of you heavy math dudes PLEASE tell me how much ham a wookiee toon would have to have to stand toe-to-toe w/ an armored foe (assume hits apply equally across the three bars and there are no misses and dmg is constant)


come on, gimme results for pve (straight up) and pvp (75% reduction) and tell me how much it is...


I'll bet my wookiee hide it comes to a little more than 700 freakin points (and that would be assuming that wookiees didnt have low mind caps and that mind wasnt the determining factor in almost every pvp encounter)


show me the math that equates 700 points of ham to 60% resist armor (we wont even talk about AR1) and I wont post another word for 2 weeks



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Kershakk
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:29 pm
#355






AudioOrgana wrote:





Kershakk wrote:

Seemed that when wookiees were at a big disadvantage the majority of people (not all I will agree) didn't give a hoot about balance - so to be blunt - if you never cared about the imbalance before, when it was not against you,any opinion you have about balance now is utterly invalid. Sorry. Can't abide double standards and hypocrisy.








Well, that really doesn't matter, now does it, since the Devs are the only ones who will judge balance.


Unless you think the Dev's concerns about balance are "utterly invalid", that is.


Audio






*grin* Nice try.I'm not talking about the final move. That will certainly be a dev thing.


As far as I am aware no dev ever came out and stomped on the situation. It was admitted a long time ago that it needed work. They're guilty of being slow to act, but never ignoring the balance issue.


It's different when players of the game who ignore it, take advantage of it, laugh at the wookiees, that suddenly turn around and try to act like they are the Hand of Justice. Plenty of non wookiees supported the idea of wookiee armour, and kudos to them. Those people who have been trying to keep status quo as it was before, now crying out about imbalance, just smacks of two facedness.


I'm all for balance. All we've ever asked for is a fair deal. It's just funny to see suddenly how many people 'care' about balance, when before they didn't give a darn.


So I am afraid I never implied the devs opinions are 'invalid'. People who ignore balance as long as it was not against them, then attempt to be judicial, they are the ones I'd call out.
ByygPapa
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:37 pm
#356

btw personally I wouldnt mind one bit if they dropped the laughable wookiee-ham and gave us the same access to armor


although I would definitely rather have a REAL (70% AR1 equivalent)ham advantage and forget about wearing the armor at all (but I dont imagine that would please the trolls, either)





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Tepic_Sand
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:44 pm
#357

Firstly let me start of by saying HELL YEAH!!


The way i see it, wookiee armour is the missing link in combat balance. Humans have no stat bonuses but they can wear full suits of armour. Trandoshans have a slight HAM increase and pay for this by not having gloves or boots to wear.


Now ive not seen or read anything about this wookiee armour but its safe to assume that since we have the highest HAM bonus then we will have very few pieces of armour to wear, maybe 3 or 4 sections (similar to clothing)in comparison to a humans suit of 9. If this is the case then armour wont need high encumberance andwookiees wont need a HAM bonus nerf. If we had like 1000 more health than the other species then id be sceptical about the need for armour, but the fact of the matter is we dont have a HAM like this. Im not denying we have an advantage but it isnt a big enough one to decide battles like some of you..im sorry to say..Imps are suggesting. We need this armour badly.


For all the whiners that think our bonus even comes close to compensating for armour, even something as weak as 50% composite, then you have obviously never played a wookiee character for any great length of time. They are all locked up in health and strength due to the high caps, we cant just stick them all in mind and the then buff the health and action bars like you.


PS - mentioning buffs isnt really a fair statement by anyone, all species can buff making everybody equal on this front.



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House-UK
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:05 pm
#358

I dont know anyone one you has said the bonuses do.............


However u read the same thing everyone else did, when u picked your toon. giving in to the wookies is a mistake,


Wookie armour better not to as good as comp, or if it is it should be as hard to make as RIS with major hunt and gathering to produce.


Complaining about the race YOU chose if stupid,


Wookies do have benifts. seems to me they just want the +s and not the -s


Any other game you pick a race that suits what u want to be.


/castvote Wookies should burn more and for longer than other classes on a flame attack.


If they dont have something to moan about they'll get bored real fast.


Drunkenjedi420
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:36 pm
#359

ZABRAKS cant roar... can u add a roar to Zabraks since your adding armour for the hair Balls? Or else im quitting the game and going after the Dude who played Chewbacca in Star Wars movie and Bringing him down to the Diego office for some PvP. Rofl - on a lighter note - Congrats you hairballs.



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ThorEll40
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:38 pm
#360

I'd like to send a HUGE THANK YOU to the developers for finally giving the wookiees some kind of armor....frankly, anything would be better than the PSG's that last all of 4 shots.


Looking forward to any and all updates pertaining to this! THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN!






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TonPhannan
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:48 pm
#361

ARggagfalgba.gf.....................................



Rowlurorowf (AKA Bitter Rowl)
Wookiee Jack of Many Trades (Master of only 2),
WOOK Former Council Secretary Elder, resigned 10/31/03,
New Rwookrrorro quarter, Alacio Island, Naboo (Bria)
(former professor from Mrllst) Bard of Kashyyyk
"...as constructive as playerly possible... "
only player known to have been banned by a "bug"


Does anyone else wish they had one of those stress relief balls but in the likeness of Raph Koster? I would have bought the collectors edition for that.
TonPhannan
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:49 pm
#362

THis is TonPhannan's wide.


Now I'm gonna have to sue SOE for wrongful death, because I just found my husband keeled over the keyboard here, apperantly the victim of a heart attack.





(not really, but thanks TH and SOE for finally coming through... for wookiees and for taking vare of my husband for me!)





Rowlurorowf (AKA Bitter Rowl)
Wookiee Jack of Many Trades (Master of only 2),
WOOK Former Council Secretary Elder, resigned 10/31/03,
New Rwookrrorro quarter, Alacio Island, Naboo (Bria)
(former professor from Mrllst) Bard of Kashyyyk
"...as constructive as playerly possible... "
only player known to have been banned by a "bug"


Does anyone else wish they had one of those stress relief balls but in the likeness of Raph Koster? I would have bought the collectors edition for that.
TonPhannan
Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:50 pm
#363






TonPhannan wrote:

THis is TonPhannan's wide.


Now I'm gonna have to sue SOE for wrongful death, because I just found my husband keeled over the keyboard here, apperantly the victim of a heart attack.





(not really, but thanks TH and SOE for finally coming through... for wookiees and for taking vare of my husband for me!)








That wa supposed to be WIFE, not wide.



Rowlurorowf (AKA Bitter Rowl)
Wookiee Jack of Many Trades (Master of only 2),
WOOK Former Council Secretary Elder, resigned 10/31/03,
New Rwookrrorro quarter, Alacio Island, Naboo (Bria)
(former professor from Mrllst) Bard of Kashyyyk
"...as constructive as playerly possible... "
only player known to have been banned by a "bug"


Does anyone else wish they had one of those stress relief balls but in the likeness of Raph Koster? I would have bought the collectors edition for that.
DrunkJedi420
Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:36 pm
#364

LoL -
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