Armorsmith Archive

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Easelman wrote:
I saw your post - a Good one

I think what I am saying is as an armorsmith or weaponsmith you have the choice now to make better resist armor or low ham armor and not both

That gives the crafting profession variety so that you will have for sale low ham rifles and high damage rifles and not all weaponsmith making the identical ones.

Variety and options, im not looking for Uber stuff just options in crafting

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So you're saying you don't have any options in crafting with 12 points? lmao. If you aren't looking to make uber stuff also, why do you have 12 skill points?

The only people making anything better with this patch are the crafters with more than 12 skill points. Try using only 10 skill points when you are crafting, then see how much better this patch is.

Granted, I think 12 point smiths should make superior weapons/armor than a 10 point smith. But it shouldn't be a requirement as it is now with this patch. What all you 12 point smiths are failing to realize is this a nerf for the 10 point masters and a huge boost to the 12 point masters.

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Ryche_Mykola wrote:

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Easelman wrote:
I saw your post - a Good one

I think what I am saying is as an armorsmith or weaponsmith you have the choice now to make better resist armor or low ham armor and not both

That gives the crafting profession variety so that you will have for sale low ham rifles and high damage rifles and not all weaponsmith making the identical ones.

Variety and options, im not looking for Uber stuff just options in crafting

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So you're saying you don't have any options in crafting with 12 points? lmao. If you aren't looking to make uber stuff also, why do you have 12 skill points?

The only people making anything better with this patch are the crafters with more than 12 skill points. Try using only 10 skill points when you are crafting, then see how much better this patch is.

Granted, I think 12 point smiths should make superior weapons/armor than a 10 point smith. But it shouldn't be a requirement as it is now with this patch. What all you 12 point smiths are failing to realize is this a nerf for the 10 point masters and a huge boost to the 12 point masters.

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That is not really something the patch introduced.

All the major competiting AS on Valcyn have 12 pts.

Yes, some do get by with 10, but those that are usually referenced have 12 pts...

No 10 pointers can make 80% kinetic 62% base 510/440/514 ham composite ( not my stuff but a fellow AS makes this)

Message Edited by Ail on 03-16-2004 05:23 PM

So you're the guy everyone's always telling me about when they want to get me to lower my prices that makes triple layered composite with 200 HAM! Wow.

To tell you the truth, that sounds pretty good for triple layered composite to me. My 80% kinetic, 64% base is probably a good 40 points above that in HAM costs.

It's all in the resources and spending your time experimenting to get the max when all your buddies are sending you tells saying 'let's go hunting'. I am out of the fiberplast and solid petro I used to get the 62% stats, but with the current Ride on Bloodfin and some 810oq solid fuel, my chestpiece out of the factory is:

Electricity 69% Kinetic 80% Bases 60% Health 241 Action 76 Mind 41Condition 36973

Ham I gave was for full suit not chestplate.

I do not remember the full stats as it is not stuff but from memory the mind ham on the chest was 32..

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Ail wrote:

Ham I gave was for full suit not chestplate.

I do not remember the full stats as it is not stuff but from memory the mind ham on the chest was 32..

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Lol!

Drat, that means I'm going to have to keep searching for that mysterious armorsmith who can make 300 HAM triple layered composite for 100k!

I also noticed people posting about 80% tripple layered kinetic composite. I'm sure i'm not the only one who can hit 80% kinetic with 2 layers. I only have 10 pts too. Less layers= lower HAMS.

Inoch,

Master AS of Wanderhome

Actually, if you can experiment the HAM's low enough, it's actually better to make the 80% kinetic with three layers, rather than two. Essentially, three 2% base/6% kinetic layers are better than two 2% base/9% kinetic layers. The reason is that those three 2% base/6% kinetic layers will have a HAM cost of 2/2/2, if you've got good enough resources, while the two 2% base/9% kinetic layers will have a HAM cost of more like 8/8/8. You get a slight 1% boost per layer that really helps if you can get the HAM costs down.