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Thread: [BER14] why u do price dumping
debsmilesr wrote:
I do not know why you are feeling this way..
I have been an architect for 690 days.. I love it I am a level 1 fighter..
My aim is to be a fast and reliable architect with a quality product to sell and to sell to those for affordable prices..
In this time i have only raised my prices once and once only..
My higest priced harvestor is the Ber14 fusion this is 90k..
I mine ALL my resources and this helps to keep prices down.. i Use My partners{rl}lots for harvs and i survey for ea spawn i use.
I rely on friends to let me know if something good is spawning BUT i also use the survey droids..It is very quick to send them out wait 35mins and then know where i have to go.
I was once asked "" did you have to lower your harvestor prices by much {after CU}.. I have never had to/
I am not a slave to the factory .My harvestors are not factory run.
The firs week we started playing we were told 150k for aber10 min and to take 3 days..
I determined then to be fair a fair and good architect..
I have never been accused of undercutting.. I have clients who trave the galaxy looking for me because I'm fair.
Also in regards to the 144k size hoppers on Ber14s.. I made 145k ones the other day
Master Architect.
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Naritus
Message Edited by debsmilesr on 09-18-2005 06:53 PM
On Fusion generators it's easy to make 140k+ hoppers, did you make 140k+ hoppers on a BER 14 Minerals, Chems, Florals, Gases and Waters?
cosno wrote:Prices have dumped on Intrepid to 120k for a BER14 and 80k for BER13's.
I have stopped making harvesters all together and will most likely drop architect soon - after 19 months as an architect price cutters have killed our server.
Wow. I'm still selling BER 13s for 100k and BER 14s for 250k. I'm considering increasing my BER 13 price. The competition has greatly diminished for some reason. I doubt I'll be dropping my BER 14 price ever.
I sell my 13's for 80k and my 14 fusions for 100k
I could craft 14's but i dont bother. At an average spawn rate of 70%, the 1 BER represents 1000 additional units collected per day. When you deal in the quantities that I deal in, the marginal requirements of production greatly outweigh the benefits (generally almost any spawn of kammris iron/duralloy steelwill be adequate to produce BER 13, whereas less than 4% of all spawns since inception generally meet the requirements of 14's - someone check my math on this). If I were to craft 14's however, I would prolly sell them for 125K to 150K. I have the resources, in stock to do so. Three days after the 14's hit the store shelves, I put 50 13 HMin's on my vendor - all 50 at 80K were gone in less than 24 hours. At this point, i have stopped trying to sell in bulk quantities, time to slow down. I have 5 accounts and 6 characters, and lately, i have been playing a lot more on my other toons (combat) and the only toon i play less now is my full templated jedi. Sad but true commentary
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Dr. ElJefe MD (Retired)
cosno wrote:
I just saw some BER14's on the Intrepid bazaar for 125k
It really hurts me when people devalue our profession like this. Might just be time for me to give up architect.
Message Edited by cosno on 09-08-2005 02:40 PM
I used to play on intrepid as an arch...and at that time they were low balling BER 13's but I noticed that those people never stayed around for too long. Just have patience they will go on to something else. I never had a prob selling my BER 13's at 130k and I was on Lok people still sought me out.
Taury
Message Edited by Enagroom on 09-25-2005 01:26 AM
Have not tried to make a ber14 as yet but I sell my ber 13's on radient for 75k
am I an undercutter I do nto see myself as undercutting others prices as I do not look at them. yes I know you are going to say teh definition of an undercutter is blah blah blah. I sell at around 3cpu per item it works for me I mine my materials, I am never going to be the richest architect on my galaxy but I make enough to be able to purchase items I want (usually) and also keep my harvies going.
I don't understand the ooooo we have to make millions and milions of creds if so become a resource farmer less work and am sure you can make loads of money as well.
As for people undercutting if you sell at 250k and someone sells at 245k they are doing your business more harm than the person that sells it at 150k which is the most I would probably sell a ber14 at. My prices are what I think is fair to the community and just wish more people in all crafts would do this rather than saying I want to be the richest merchant on the server and change my name to Gate$.
Nmonanor wrote:
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I don't understand the ooooo we have to make millions and milions of creds if so become a resource farmer less work and am sure you can make loads of money as well. ...
Nmonanor wrote:
As for people undercutting if you sell at 250k and someone sells at 245k they are doing your business more harm than the person that sells it at 150k which is the most I would probably sell a ber14 at.
Nmonanor wrote:
...My prices are what I think is fair to the community and just wish more people in all crafts would do this rather than saying I want to be the richest merchant on the server and change my name to Gate$.
Ok so you say you're not an undercutter and seemed to sound slightly annoyed about that label.
Pawlin wrote:
Nmonanor wrote:
As for people undercutting if you sell at 250k and someone sells at 245k they are doing your business more harm than the person that sells it at 150k which is the most I would probably sell a ber14 at.
Nmonanor wrote:
...My prices are what I think is fair to the community and just wish more people in all crafts would do this rather than saying I want to be the richest merchant on the server and change my name to Gate$.
Ok so you say you're not an undercutter and seemed to sound slightly annoyed about that label.
Nmonanor wrote:
Pawlin wrote:
Nmonanor wrote:
As for people undercutting if you sell at 250k and someone sells at 245k they are doing your business more harm than the person that sells it at 150k which is the most I would probably sell a ber14 at.
That makes no sense at all.
It made sense to me when I typed it lol is more for the fact that people who undercutt just to undercutt eg the 5k difference is the person you should be agrieved at. The low figure is someone who will always sell cheap no matter what.
Still makes no sense.
Anyone cheaper than me is a compettitive business threat. Someone 100k cheaper is a much bigger competitive threat than someone 5k cheaper.
Nmonanor wrote:
...My prices are what I think is fair to the community and just wish more people in all crafts would do this rather than saying I want to be the richest merchant on the server and change my name to Gate$.
Pawlin wrote:
Ok so you say you're not an undercutter and seemed to sound slightly annoyed about that label.
Then you finish by basically labeling anyone that sells for more than an arbitrary number you pulled out of nowhere as being a greedy gouger.
where in that did I call you a gouger? All I am saying is that if people want to have really high charges that is up to them. ...
Did anyone directly call you an "undercutter"? Would it make you happier if people said: "charges prices lower than their peers" instead of "undercutter"? Cause its the same thing. It doesn't matter if you "intend" to sell for lower than others, if you do so then you're undercutting.
No you didn't literally use the word gouger. But if you want to say others are trying to be the richest people on teh server and change their name to Gate$ then thats pretty much just saying gouger in 25 words or less. And besides "really high charges" which you just said is pretty much the definition of gouging.
Nmonanor wrote:
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why should people have to spend what little they have on items that they may desperately need just to be able to pull whatever they need to make a living. I just believe that the economy is falsely high that is all.
Harvesters are ridiculously underpriced. At our typical 90-120k pricesa miner can drop a BER13 heavy harvester on any random vein of grind quality steel and recoup yourcapital investment in 3-14 days. With virtually no work on their part. Plus the deed never decays so its as good as new.