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Thread: And I quote: Holy s#$t, you are WAY overpriced

ShaneMcMahon0
Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:23 am
#53

Your prices are way cheap, and that guy was an idiot and if what he was saying, the other architect selling for cheaper is even more of an idiot



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Serano
Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:20 am
#54

honestly, I very rarely ever sell houses anymore. I can still sell the raw materials at 4 cr per unit in mass quantities so why would i bother risking fails by making those materials into a house? I can just sell materials forever, I don't care ifI never sell another house.




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Riekl
Mon Aug 18, 2003 4:21 am
#55

Kristi,


I have heard of you You sold a prior customer of mine a PA Hall for 250k Rhylor I believe his name was I'd have to double check. You see the way the architect community works you are bound to run into the other master architects if you are doing decent business. I talk in depth with my customers not just heres my price take it or leave it. They share information with me, i.e. who is selling what at what price and what their waiting lists are. I give small discounts (like 5k) for such information as it is valuable to my business and pricing.


The point I was making earlier about him wasn't that he WASNT doing what he said (although personally I do doubt it). But that if he was .. he was having no impact on anyone elses's business. If you've got guy A selling 3 pa halls / day at 250k, word is going to spread FAST. Yet I , and every other master arch i've talked to since this thread started have no problem selling them for 350+, and not a single person has come back saying "Well Doomik also has them on hand and wills ell them for 250". Again i'm not going to argue that hes not selling 3/day it is technicaly feasible to do so in a vaccum, but hes having no effect on my business so more power to him.


The thing he doesn't seem to realize is that I make 10x his profit, and only manage _10_ harvestors, and have more money then him. In order to manager 100 harvestors you are talking 5+ hours/day just doing harvestor runs, and hes getting nothing for it. Now that .. is sad

Ergot
Mon Aug 18, 2003 4:50 am
#56

I do 6-10 credits per resource, depending on difficulty, and have no problem telling people to find someone else if my prices are too much, I just shoot to break even, if I get enough money to pay for harvesters, then I'm set, 95% of everything I make goes to the guild for free anyways, that 5% pays for all my harvesters so that guild doesn't have to support me.


I won't argue what prices are fair or not, I just charge what its worth to me to make structures.

DeejZozzle
Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:56 am
#57

I am on Wanderhome - this weekend I was poking around on the Bazaar to see how much personal harvestors were going for and there it was . . . small houses for 3k in Theed. If I wasn't so poor as a recent Novice Arch. trying to pay for my 8 harvestors and 2 wind generators to stock up on resources for my own grind, I would have bought them all.You can NEVER get away from thegrind- you have to grind out small houses and other common stuff to climb the ladder and it is still hard to keep an income at this point to fund my resources- even my resource sales have dried up recently on the Bazaar unless I sell them for 2-3 credits. I am going to go up installations first to get to medium harvestors, but the desparation for $$$ for some is enough to undermine the entire profession, even though they areone of us. . . I always keep a couple of smalls on me and had someone just randomly walk up and buy one for 12k yesterday in Kadaara. It's all about patience, and for the people that have none - they will do whatever it takes to sell and get money for the grind, even if they are ultimately hurting themselves and the profession. At least 5k for a small can still be profitable (barely) if you are harvesting your own resources on a dense resource, but 3k ???



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DeejZozzle
Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:57 am
#58

Please give us an "edit" option on these forums ??? Please ?



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Pentagon2k3
Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:09 am
#59

I'm part of a PA, but that doesnt necessarily mean that I am getting funded by them. From what I see in this thread my prices are quite high, but I am able to make sales due to my name being spread around and customer service.



I can relate to the WOW you charge that much for a <structure>, ive seen them for <price set by powerleveling architect, or blatant lie>.


I stick to my prices and tell them to go get the item from him/her.


Hey if Anyone out there wants to sell me structures for 2creds per unit I will gladly buy them. Im positive I can get alot more for them.



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CandaVespin
Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:15 am
#60




AndonSage2 wrote:

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I am interested, though, if you've heard of me Riekl Or if anyone else on Chilastrawho frequents this forum has, hehe


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I've heard of you Kristi. I run by your shop all the time.



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BT-Trajan
Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:17 am
#61

I have, more or less, stopped searching for new business. I am not yet a master achitect, but can make large homes and large installations. That alone allows me to work through established clients to get new business. I definatetly quote my standard 3.5 -4.5 credit per resource price for all new business, but once they are an established client I always ask if they have clipped the 10% coupon from this sunday's add section of the local theed newspaper. Amazingly they all have that coupon handy =) . If a new business customer doesnt like my prices, I am happy to let them go find their product somewhere else.


I enjoy working with my customers to get them the house/installation that they want, for a reasonable price that covers my cost and risk, but doesnt empty their wallets.Occasionally, customers tip me several thousand credits because they like my service.


I probably could get more business and cash if I were more aggressive and cut-throuat, but.....who wants to be a rich jerk? I enjoy friendly people and a good game -- bugs and all.



Cheers!





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Witek
Mon Aug 18, 2003 9:00 am
#62

Don't worry about idiots like Dumin, he's obviously lying about his "affect" on Chilsastra. The truth of the matter is, architects who undercut like that are basically working a lot harder, spending more time, using a LOT more resources, and cranking out a lot more of a product. And for what? To make a profit that is the same as an architect who sells his PA Halls at a decent price? You could sell 1/3 of what someone like him sells, and just as long as your prices aren't severely undercut, still make just as much money as him. Now as for him duping, I wouldn't rule that out. The resource dupe was just a horrible blow to the game as a whole, and I hope all the people who used it get banned.


That is why I laugh at the undercutters. They are doing more work for the same result.




Mordack
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Mahr_lan
Mon Aug 18, 2003 9:02 am
#63

I play on chilistra and it is hard to sell hosues. But I did not become an architech to make money. I Plan on building up a city and running it. I have two accounts and so I have another char I play with to adventure. I also have a group of 3 other who help with resourses. Every week I collect resourses and make wall mods in my factory. Then I carry them around with me of if someone needs something , I have set prices. I Make ok money from it but I started sellig off resourses instead of making things iwth them while keeping some for my slef. On chilistra Being a architech sucks if you wanna make money.



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GoCanes
Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:50 am
#64






AndonSage2 wrote:

Player: Holy s#$t, you are WAY overpriced. I've seen people selling them for 25k.







Everytime I hear that, I ask for the sellers name so I can buy 100 of them... It's funny that nobody has ever told me a name of the seller.... ^_^




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Vyper51
Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:56 am
#65

I'm also not looking to make a killing, but I do have fifteen medium and heavy harvesters to pay for, and am having a hard time doing it because of this pricing problem. I'd like to break even, but who doesn't want to have a little extra? I'm a guildmaster and I'd really like to help out my newbies with their training, and I just can't do it without an income! The guild undercutters are not going to go away because they don't care at all about the profession as a whole and what they do to it.


Btw, I really like the coupon idea! I think I'm going to make some real ones!




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