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Thread: Am I alone in my approach to resources ?

Pawlin
Wed May 05, 2004 3:57 pm
#14

I do both. I buy stuff and do some of my own mining.


I buy all the gas and chemicals I need. Haven't ran a chemical extractor or gas processor for a long time. I also buy a bit of ore now and then and have one regular supplier for a weekly drop. I'll buy various grind quality metals whenever I need them or whenever I find a good deal. I also run 10 harvesters that I either static mine the highest % ore or metal that exists behind my shop or I will plant them all on a high quality steel if we happen to have one show up. I'll also bargain shop in the forum auctions or on vendors. My operation isn't that big though and I only run 1 structure factory so its not too hard to keep it fed with resources and running.




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Skye_Trig
Thu May 06, 2004 5:06 am
#15







I harvest all the good quality stuff myself and buy ore/junk metal. With 3 accounts I have 20 harvesters I can move around. (The rest are in storage/factories)


When there isn't a good spawn of high quality material I put them all on ore. Even though harvesting can be a bit frustrating at times (surveying in particular) I would not miss it, I like finding a good spot and check up on it from time to time.


It is however, NOT fun when you find out a SUPER resources has just spawned and its already way past the time you should be in bed so you are not a zombie at work the day after.... but my colleagues are getting used to me looking like something out of a zombie movie.


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WellDone
Thu May 06, 2004 6:19 am
#16

Try this approach, It's made me a rich man.


I use my lots exclusively to mine whatever is in the most demand, mineral , flora, chem. Just whatever has the potential to bring the highest CPU. If thats a good architect steel then even better. I sell any resources that I don't personally use. I buy all grind materials at 2cpu or below. Why waste a perfectly good heavy harvestor mining ore for walls when you can get the same amount of a resourceto sell at 3 times the price of ore?





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Rurry
Thu May 06, 2004 11:21 am
#17

I mine everything. I have 19 static lots that I traded/or rent. I have 9 lots from me and my alt to move to the hot stuff. I will mine anything that I feel is valuble, whether I will use it or not. There is nothing like sitting on 200k of OMG reactive gas for a rainy day.








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ZenDragonMLS
Thu May 06, 2004 2:03 pm
#18

Both Rurry and WellDone reminded me of something. In general, I *don't* mine arbitrary resources that might not be useful for architects, because I really don't want to screw with selling them. However, there have been a couple of cases where I've mined up some really uber stuff (e.g., reactive gas with very high OQ). Then rather than selling it directly, I told people that I was willing to trade them like 2:1 or 3:1 for the same type of material with crappy stats. So that way I put the burden on them to come up with 400K of arbitrary reactive gas to trade for my 200K. That was my way of essentially "mining" 2X what I could have done given my lots, so it was a leverage play. I've done the same thing with super copper for crappy copper.

So yes, the idea of mining an uber resource that isn't directly useful to you as an architect, either for money or for trade, is obviously an angle that we should all be aware of.



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KRONOS1974
Thu May 06, 2004 2:30 pm
#19

Harvesting= lower cost to me= lower cost to the buyer.

If you spend 10 mil on resources you need to raise prices to get that first 10 mil, and then make a profit.

As for harvesting, i just pay maint and energy leaving 90% profit left over. Also causes more business and always being out.


So there is a good side and a bad side.

The guy selling cheaper will run out, and end up buying anyways to restock. Or wait till he can harvest more takin a lose in sales.


The guy buying can always get resources, stock up much more. But has to charge 10-30% more. Sales will slack off early and for long periods until the guy selling cheaper runs out. Then your sales may pick up.


Must of my clients come from people not happy with their regular architects prices, or they are always sold out, or cant afford to keep up.


I harvest and im happy with it. I buy ONLY if i have to.


I just saved up enough material in 2 weeks to make 50 of everything that i plan on having a grand opening of my shop that i should have had months ago but didnt have the materials






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Mkappus
Thu May 06, 2004 3:11 pm
#20

I have harvested 90% of my own resources. I buy power, and if I can find ore cheap or other stuff at 2 cpu I will buy it. On Intrepid almost no one is willing to mine ore at 2 cpu. It is in lower concentrations and lower demand.


I have 5 borrowed lots from PA friends, 4 lots on 1 char, 8 lots on my alt, and 10 lots from a server swap. Takes a lot of my time checking harvs every other day, but only way I can imagine making money.


It allows me to sell cheap to PA members and still make a profit. With demand for deeds going way way down, I can't imagine how anyone who buys resources can compete. If I have to I can sell deeds for 2cpu and still make a profit.





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Niklesnitz
Thu May 06, 2004 3:24 pm
#21






ZenDragonMLS wrote:
Both Rurry and WellDone reminded me of something. In general, I *don't* mine arbitrary resources that might not be useful for architects, because I really don't want to screw with selling them. However, there have been a couple of cases where I've mined up some really uber stuff (e.g., reactive gas with very high OQ). Then rather than selling it directly, I told people that I was willing to trade them like 2:1 or 3:1 for the same type of material with crappy stats. So that way I put the burden on them to come up with 400K of arbitrary reactive gas to trade for my 200K. That was my way of essentially "mining" 2X what I could have done given my lots, so it was a leverage play. I've done the same thing with super copper for crappy copper.

So yes, the idea of mining an uber resource that isn't directly useful to you as an architect, either for money or for trade, is obviously an angle that we should all be aware of.





This is a very interesting idea. Something to try out, definitely.



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BoberFett
Thu May 06, 2004 4:15 pm
#22






KRONOS1974 wrote:


I just saved up enough material in 2 weeks to make 50 of everything that i plan on having a grand opening of my shop that i should have had months ago but didnt have the materials







You have enough materials in two weeks to make 50 of everything? What do you stock, furniture? If it's houses and harvesters, how many lots do you run?
SithDoctor
Fri May 07, 2004 9:42 am
#23

I am a relatively new Master Architect and master Droid engineerin the city of Aridis on Rori, who is high quality but low volume, and I harvest all my own resources, unless I find a good deal on a vendor or the bazaar on something. I must be the only casual player architect out there, as though I play some every day, I have no alt, have done no lot swapping and have only 6 lots borrowed from a friend for static structures. I use my 7 available lots and rotate them through fusion, mineral, chem and occasionally gas depending on what I need and what is good. True I can't mass produce (and don't want to otherwise this will become a job for me instead of a game), and I only have 4 million in the bank (unlike the multimillionaires I know are out there), but I enjoy my time crafting and meeting people. Wonder if there are other casual architects out there like me


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Cafa
Fri May 07, 2004 9:49 am
#24






Rurry wrote:

I mine everything. I have 19 static lots that I traded/or rent. I have 9 lots from me and my alt to move to the hot stuff. I will mine anything that I feel is valuble, whether I will use it or not. There is nothing like sitting on 200k of OMG reactive gas for a rainy day.





There's a guy I know with gas statics. Literally no one will buy his stuff unless it is 920+ oq. So I get those 201k stacks of reactive with the amazing 10 OQ at 1 cpu. Hehe


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Rurry
Fri May 07, 2004 11:39 am
#25

Only one of my statics is Gas - I pull reactive of the week usually unless it's like 7%. Then I pull the inert and give/dump away. The rest of my statics are 2 structure factories, 1 solar generator (handy at times when radioactive is low), 1 flora farm (for the wood I need, and to harvest other organics to sell when I don't), 3 heavy mineral installations and the rest medium minerals. I use all heavies for me and my alt to concentrate on the hots spots. One of my vendors I load up with resources and let them ride. When I'm out and about I check other vendors for good deals as well. I do, however tend to keep all my harvesters on Naboo or Dantooine (near my vendors) so it minimizes running all over to check them.




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TheFish72
Fri May 07, 2004 8:16 pm
#26

I have been an architech since week2 (dont let the forums registration date fool you), and I have almost always harvested my own resources. Buy only when Im in a pinch, plus I harvest for WS, Archy and resource sales. I also have the use of guildmates to drop extractors for me, usually free of charge, which is a huge help. I will buy the occational crate of walls if I loose track of what I have in stock (not hard in 5 houses and 3 bank safety-boxes... hehe). But you figure you can pull resources for .3-.5 cpu... I like to see you get a miner sell to you for that price.


I do employ miners, but for WS resources if I run outta (borrowed) lots. Architech is one of the lowest paid crafters ("###K for a guildhall? Are you CRAZY?") and it cuts a big % out of your profits (as they are) if you pay for your resources IMO.





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