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Thread: How do you make your advanced weapon stocks?

BloodMonk
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:03 am
#1

I finally got some correlian decideous wood yesterday...So for the first time in my shortlived WS carreer.

the stocks came out -23sac +0.11 speed


do you guys go for even higher sac reduction? lower speed?



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flounder05
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:06 am
#2

With perfect resources, speed caps at 0.00 and SAC at -25. Based upon your other sub components, I would experiment with those stocks and see where your sac is on assembly, and pay attention to the system messages. If you go over the SAC cap on assembly, you could conceivably move one experimentatino point from eff to speed. Or if you come up with 1 on the high side of SAC capping, you could try to get the stocks to -24 with the a tad higher speed.



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BloodMonk
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:10 am
#3

cool you're the first to ever give me info on component caps


because the ABPH were taking too much factory time I haven't had a change to craft any weapons with those stocks....Guess I'll see tonight





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Summerflame
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:25 am
#4






flounder05 wrote:
With perfect resources, speed caps at 0.00 and SAC at -25. Based upon your other sub components, I would experiment with those stocks and see where your sac is on assembly, and pay attention to the system messages. If you go over the SAC cap on assembly, you could conceivably move one experimentatino point from eff to speed. Or if you come up with 1 on the high side of SAC capping, you could try to get the stocks to -24 with the a tad higher speed.





Im quite positive you wont be able to make 0.00 speed -25 SAC Stocks.


Atm I haven 1.15 Speed and -25 SAC Stocks (when maxing the SAC Line and the rest into speed (amazings on both)


and 0.00 speeed -12 (when maxing speed rest into SAC (Amazings on both)


This is using 826 SR Linsteel Alu and 684 SR Wood with ent buff (I believe Im maxing out the bars with these )


I believe it would require you to max out both lines to get 0.00 speed -25 SAC and that is not possible even with 12 points. But I agree that the caps seems to be 0.00 for speed and -25 for SAC, just not obtainable on the same stock.


You need to decide if you want to trade sac for speed or the other way around.





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rivvers
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:38 am
#5


Ok i'm lost here. How are the above stocks possible? I have 700 sr wood and 826 sr link steel. I can get the sac to -25 but the speed is still 1.00 something. How do u spend your points?




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rivvers
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:41 am
#6






Summerflame wrote:





flounder05 wrote:
With perfect resources, speed caps at 0.00 and SAC at -25. Based upon your other sub components, I would experiment with those stocks and see where your sac is on assembly, and pay attention to the system messages. If you go over the SAC cap on assembly, you could conceivably move one experimentatino point from eff to speed. Or if you come up with 1 on the high side of SAC capping, you could try to get the stocks to -24 with the a tad higher speed.





Im quite positive you wont be able to make 0.00 speed -25 SAC Stocks.


Atm I haven 1.15 Speed and -25 SAC Stocks (when maxing the SAC Line and the rest into speed (amazings on both)


and 0.00 speeed -12 (when maxing speed rest into SAC (Amazings on both)


This is using 826 SR Linsteel Alu and 684 SR Wood with ent buff (I believe Im maxing out the bars with these )


I believe it would require you to max out both lines to get 0.00 speed -25 SAC and that is not possible even with 12 points. But I agree that the caps seems to be 0.00 for speed and -25 for SAC, just not obtainable on the same stock.


You need to decide if you want to trade sac for speed or the other way around.







thank u i thought i was sucking as a smith lol


But if the oringnal poster does have -23 and +0.11 i would say that is godly.






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GrooperNugent
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:41 am
#7

I think Flounder was saying that you could get -25 or 0.0 with perfect resources (allowing for 100%experimentation on that line).


Like Summer said, she's getting -25, 1.0spd.






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flounder05
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:41 am
#8

Well, technically, the decimal point on sub components is in the wrong spot. A stock with speed of 1.10, actually applies .11 speed to the weapon.



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flounder05
Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:42 am
#9



GrooperNugent wrote:

I think Flounder was saying that you could get -25 or 0.0 with perfect resources (allowing for 100%experimentation on that line).

Like Summer said, she's getting -25, 1.0spd.






Yeah, that's what I was trying to get across. Sorry if it seemed muddled.



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BloodMonk
Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:00 pm
#10

ehm with -23 sac and +.1 speed I already did that decimal point correction....sorry for not mentioning that





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Siymon
Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:58 pm
#11

I would think the SAC bonus is the one to shoot for 90% of the time. You can overcome speed with skill tapes and slice. SAC capped weapons with a SAC powerup on the are very powerful as they allow for a lot of specials.



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nabothian
Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:07 am
#12

So if I had a stock that was -20 SAC and 0.00 speed, that would be worth using then?



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BloodMonk
Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:40 am
#13

-20 and 0.0 speed would be impossible to craft



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