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Thread: CU WS PETITION (Please post responses so we get heard)

Amana
Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:52 pm
#1

I am thoroughly angered by some of the changes made to us and what we have been turned into. For ever since I had yuanja on radiant he has never needed to use advanced blaster rifle barrels and now that the CU has come around he has been forced into n00bness because of this the same goes for advanced blade vibro units. Also I don't know if it is true but if it is I am more so angered by the overall weaponsmith weapon cap. I thought it to be mearly a rumor but after crafting an SR combat pistol today with high grade components including krayt tissues, high capacity blaster pistol barrel and all good components next to my neutronium steel it ranked only at 528 which a person said they had a 700 max dmg one. With the CU instigated I feel WS are out of buisness because only pre nerf weaponry will rule supreme in this dead land. Unless we can make it so that regular components like regular blaster rifle barrels/pistol barrels can be used in components that require them many WS will be n00bed while others will flourish.



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Amana
Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:59 am
#2

please everyone we need to get some responses on this. We need to atleast petition the change of the advanced blaster rifle barrel/pistol barrel schematic requirements so that they require some materials that will make them viable. Also getting the soft cap raised. I forgot to mention that when I crafted the SR combat pistol all the components added up to over 55% wound chance however the computer kept spamming me saying since it was over the limit it harshly killed it to a repsectable 19% wound chance. I have a feeling we WS have an uphill battle. I lost atleast 3 possible deals yesterday because I don't have the components to use advanced blaster rifle/pistol barrels.



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Amana Wolf Master BE/Master Rifleman (server: radiant)
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Samaw
Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:13 am
#3






Amana wrote:

I am thoroughly angered by some of the changes made to us and what we have been turned into. For ever since I had yuanja on radiant he has never needed to use advanced blaster rifle barrels and now that the CU has come around he has been forced into n00bness because of this the same goes for advanced blade vibro units. Also I don't know if it is true but if it is I am more so angered by the overall weaponsmith weapon cap. I thought it to be mearly a rumor but after crafting an SR combat pistol today with high grade components including krayt tissues, high capacity blaster pistol barrel and all good components next to my neutronium steel it ranked only at 528 which a person said they had a 700 max dmg one. With the CU instigated I feel WS are out of buisness because only pre nerf weaponry will rule supreme in this dead land. Unless we can make it so that regular components like regular blaster rifle barrels/pistol barrels can be used in components that require them many WS will be n00bed while others will flourish.






I agree with you on that the CU for weaponsmith is a bad thing. But not all pre CU weapons turned out good. For examaple I made a test T 21 post CU to compare it to my pre CU's Unsliced this puppy was better than my best T 21 I had on my vender which was a 573 max. Tell if that isn't messed up.


Here is another example of the great conversion. berserker rifle 512 max compared to a berserker 529 max.

After the conversion the 512 had a higher DPS by about 17 pts. The pre cu speeds on these weapons was maybe .2 spd difference. What the hell.



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Amana
Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:33 am
#4

good example another weird one for you is a T21 I had on my 2nd toon saxx was 506 max dmg and now has been oustandingly boosted to 998 or so max dmg which is weird in its own right. The main thing I am petitioning for is so we don't have to use the advanced rifle barrel/pistol barrel. Those components are hard to make as well as stink. I have not been able to craft them post CU however because I do not have the components to make them with. We really need to get the changed to only require regular gem stone with maybe the durralloy steel/rhodium steel with some platinite copper so it is more balanced out. I cannot find that weird ryll amphorus gemstone.



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Amana Wolf Master BE/Master Rifleman (server: radiant)
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DaBarius
Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:00 am
#5

I am very angry about the weird conversion of all weapons, conponents. I am also angry that things like krayt tissue did not convert.


The part of the barrels and such, I feel is necessary. This way, new WSs can compete in the market by building players weapons that use basic components, while more veteran WSs have the resources to build advanced weaponry.





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SlaserX
Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:40 am
#6






DaBarius wrote:

The part of the barrels and such, I feel is necessary. This way, new WSs can compete in the market by building players weapons that use basic components, while more veteran WSs have the resources to build advanced weaponry.








That's true. I've been a WS on Kauri for almost 6 months now, and I still cant make adv rifle barels. I've had to buy them from other smiths, and use normal ones so I could make weapons (Which actually worked great in Flamethrowers for -0.1 extraspeed). Now, I'm essentially screwed out of the ranged weapons race because I cant make what I need to make.



I'm still pissed about half my comps not converting :/





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Shaggscoob
Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:06 am
#7

wow this is sad!!! You guys seriously just suck as weaponsmiths if you Are complaining about not being able to make ADVANCED BLASTER RIFLE OR PISTOL BARRELS!! Heaven forbid if you have to actually make the things that you have schems to make! I'd like to see that stats on your old weapons compared to the stats on my old weapons... Did you guys even stockpile resources? I AM angry though that the krayt that I was hoarding didn't convert, but nonetheless I believe that our profession was GREATLY enhanced, and REALLY enjoy being able to experiment on damage, speed, and elemental damage speretely. Now stop whining and buckle down and work towards being better smiths!



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RWC
Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:16 am
#8

Im not going to get into an argument defending the CU, Ive have too many of those recently.
Basically other than a few problems in the conversions I have nothing to complain about. I think Weaponsmith is alot better now.
wparson
Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:34 am
#9

the cap on crafted weapons needs to go, having 8 exp points left is not acceptable.



As making components, unless your server has never had a spawn of these I don't see your point. First thing i ever did as a smith was collect every resource to make any schem i had. Its part of the profesion whether you use it or not, you never know who will want a set of dxr mines. How bout the fact that I have 10mil worth of thermal, imperial, and proton grenades that can now be used to create a "wharehouse" effect and nothing else? c-12 doesn't even do the same damage as a cdef? cmon we need to pick our battles here. The cap needs to be raised on crafted weapons to save the profesion, also slicing is next to useless now, im sure the smugglers will take of that though.





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Weps_Avock
Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:57 am
#10

I'm gonna have to go with Izz on this one. I've been a WS for almost a year now. Spent millions of credits and hour on hour of surveying and searching vendors to build up my stock of resources. I never stop looking for a better resource. 5 more points will get me higher damage or a bit faster weapon. For those of you out there that can't craft some Advanced Components.....go hunting vendors. Not on your server, be paitent. I waited 3 months for a spawn of Ryll Amorphous Gemstone (know your resources too). It was almost 5 months to find Green Diamond Crystalline Gemstone, and longer for Bryothsis...see where this is going?


If you want to make the weapons that now require advanced components, you'll stick with it. If not, specialize in low level ranged or melee weapons. There is nothing wrong with the CU crafting. It's just different.



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AldaronTavish
Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:24 pm
#11






Weps_Avock wrote:

I'm gonna have to go with Izz on this one. I've been a WS for almost a year now. Spent millions of credits and hour on hour of surveying and searching vendors to build up my stock of resources. I never stop looking for a better resource. 5 more points will get me higher damage or a bit faster weapon. For those of you out there that can't craft some Advanced Components.....go hunting vendors. Not on your server, be paitent. I waited 3 months for a spawn of Ryll Amorphous Gemstone (know your resources too). It was almost 5 months to find Green Diamond Crystalline Gemstone, and longer for Bryothsis...see where this is going?


If you want to make the weapons that now require advanced components, you'll stick with it. If not, specialize in low level ranged or melee weapons. There is nothing wrong with the CU crafting. It's just different.



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Rico4
Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:28 pm
#12

Im quite pleased with the way the CU has gone, SWG needed a change (maybe not so drastic though). The only thing that concerns me is the Cap, as this gives nothing to work to which i feel is what crafting is all about-making this better with each new resources available. saying this after the first few weapons ive crafted, mainly ones above combat lvl 40, the only cap ive hit is Wound.but with all the extra Exp. lines available, in components aswell as the finished item, it will give a much wider range of weaponary instead of all the leading WS making exact same weapons to within 1-2 points of damage.


Some weapon convertions are strange i guess-my alts 565 (ADK'd) tenloss turned into 840ish but a lesser 500ish one was around 20 better this is slightly annoying, and a pre Cu geo-Power Hammer was 510max now at 931, where as standard crafted ones Post Cu are 1000+.


Overall i think the CU is good but will just take alot of time to adjust to.





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LookOfDeath
Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:03 am
#13



Weps_Avock wrote:

I'm gonna have to go with Izz on this one. I've been a WS for almost a year now. Spent millions of credits and hour on hour of surveying and searching vendors to build up my stock of resources. I never stop looking for a better resource. 5 more points will get me higher damage or a bit faster weapon. For those of you out there that can't craft some Advanced Components.....go hunting vendors. Not on your server, be paitent. I waited 3 months for a spawn of Ryll Amorphous Gemstone (know your resources too). It was almost 5 months to find Green Diamond Crystalline Gemstone, and longer for Bryothsis...see where this is going?

If you want to make the weapons that now require advanced components, you'll stick with it. If not, specialize in low level ranged or melee weapons. There is nothing wrong with the CU crafting. It's just different.

Weps Avock
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