Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: Wasting valuable enhancements due to poor experimentation results

Sylk01
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:23 pm
#1

Is it just me or has Weapon Experimentation taken a nurf? I used to get mostly "great results" when using Krayt tissue or Rancor Teeth to enhance wepaons. Recently my average result is "Moderate".


?!?!?!?!?!?!


So now my Rancor and Krayt weapons are WORSE than my best non-enhanced weapons. people waste so much time and credits to get weapon enhancements just to get junk in return... What a freaking waste. Thank you SOE yet again for pointing out how other company's games do it right and SOE focuses on maximizing our waster time to prolong our play-an-pay period. (Horizons has a no-fail craft system where if you use extra resources, there's 100% chance of success.)



S Y L K
M
aster Weaponsmith of RAiD

Phoenix on Corellia (Vendor Waypoint -2318, 0, -868)


Xieflow
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:28 pm
#2

if you are doing anything "major" make sure you do it near an uber crafting station, with uber crafting tools, while eating that food that increases the initial crafting assembly, and see if you can find +25 to weapon assembly and +25 to experiment skilltapes
Sylk01
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:34 pm
#3

Naturally, I already have the best Crafting station and tools that can be made. This is not a factor. Something changed in the code or this is a major coincidence. I have countless examples of great results but over the last few weeks, all of my results are consistantly lower.


As for the uber clothing attachments... I sell my weapons too cheap to make more than a Million at any time and they always auction for much more than that. *grumble*



S Y L K
M
aster Weaponsmith of RAiD

Phoenix on Corellia (Vendor Waypoint -2318, 0, -868)


Itchybacca
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:38 pm
#4

you cna also thank a few people for largly inflated prices on these enhancements.

Its a risk their willing to take. One reccomendation Sylk, try to get a weaponsmith tool bandolir, and I hear ther there is a food that adds experimentation. I eat a food that gives +6 assembly each craft, every little bit helps



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Itchybacca
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:39 pm
#5

but on topic, I've been noticing the same thing, I'm not sure what you have but i have +122 assembly now and +108 assembly



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DarthLueder
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:50 pm
#6

I've also noticed a change. Moderates, good, average, etc seem to have increased. I have a +43 station, +99.95 tools, and work in a research center city. Critical Failures decreased when our city went research but it seems they have been spread out to "moderate" results. I haven't managed to get my hands on any of the Bespin Port or Pyollian Cake to test them.

The WS Toolkits look cool but bidding quickly tops 1 mil for these things. Every auction of decent WS tapes seem to be snapped up for exorbitant prices. (Side note, is is just me or has anyone else noticed the same weaponsmiths have been buying these tapes for 10 mil+ even though they should have enough for +500 by now. This of course ensures they have the advantage and can make sure the poorer weaponsmiths can't compete. Naw, I'm just imagining things.)



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Jedi_Titus
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:04 pm
#7




Yep, noticed the same thing. I've been getting a lot more moderate and good successes lately. Of course I have the best tools and crafting station possible, plus a couple tapes (some of my richer customers too pitty on me ).


I really hate seeing the exp tapes going for insane prices... excuse me for not gouging my customers.


Message Edited by Jedi_Titus on 02-25-2004 06:05 PM



Egan Vorlock: Master Weaponsmith, Carbineer - Starsider

Elesar Vorlock: Master Ranger, Creature Handler, Pistoleer, Proud Bothan - Starsider
Sylk01
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:10 pm
#8


"excuse me for not gouging my customers"


Yes. This is so true. I think those that sell tapes for millions need to start paying millons for their weapons to balance this out. Just goes to show you how Weaponsmiths that don't try to screw their customers get screwed in return.

Message Edited by Sylk01 on 02-25-2004 02:12 PM



S Y L K
M
aster Weaponsmith of RAiD

Phoenix on Corellia (Vendor Waypoint -2318, 0, -868)


Jedi_Titus
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:20 pm
#9






Sylk01 wrote:


I think those that sell tapes for millions need to start paying millons for their weapons to balance this out.







/cheerwildly


hmm... I must be turning into a grumpy old smith


I know a guy who made well over 100 million just selling tapes (all types). That is just nuts! But as long as people will throw obsene amounts of money at them the SEA prices will be horrible \




Egan Vorlock: Master Weaponsmith, Carbineer - Starsider

Elesar Vorlock: Master Ranger, Creature Handler, Pistoleer, Proud Bothan - Starsider
Jebredan_Xoel
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:39 pm
#10

Which food are you guys referring to?



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Avock
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:43 pm
#11

It actually seems marginally better after the patch for me. I'm using a 43.2xx crafting station though ... I made 5 special vibro-kuncklers for a customer last night, and 4 of them turned out perfect.


Avock
Master Weaponsmith / Master Merchant / Master Artisan
East Dune Sea Oasis, Tatooine
Corbantis




- Avock
Retired Master Weaponsmith, Master Merchant, Master Artisan, [combat challenged]
Core Tech - Weapons - East Dune Sea Oasis, Tatooine (5012, 3260)
DarthLueder
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:08 pm
#12



Jebredan_Xoel wrote:
Which food are you guys referring to?




Bespin Port: Increase the success rate for the next experiment assembly
Pyollian Cake: Increase Assembly Roll on Next Craft



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Smuggler | Skorpidoo - Bothan Commando
Shinkai - Elder Jedi | Arywyn - Trader/Shipwright
Skor S&W - South of Coronet, Corellia 436, -5388

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Itchybacca
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:30 pm
#13


I got all my tapes for free



yes believe it or not, there are people who play this game for somethign other than greed.



Twoof my tapesboth +6 experimentation sold in auction for 11 million credits and 14 million credits in other auctions for the same size tape. If I wasnt a wookiee and my outfit was weaable for everyone I'm sure I'd get 30-40 million for my outfit heh.


I am very proud of the fact that there are people in this game who help others out. This is the first game I've ever met such nice people.



Just yesterday a 1000sr Kammris iron popped on Valcyn, I was talking to a smith whom I dont talk to often, and we were talking about this Iron and I told him I'd get him a WP as soon as i get one, he snapped back at me and said "I didnt tell you to get me a wp, I can do that myself" I was like ohhhh kaaayyy I was jsut trying to help you out because I am not in this for competition, so I make a point to offer my assisstance where ever I can.

Message Edited by Itchybacca on 02-25-2004 05:34 PM



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