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Thread: Increased Crit fails on assembly since patch

Jez3an
Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:53 am
#1

Can't say I've noticed any change.



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Trambo
Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:34 am
#2

dito no change



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Va-Mei
Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:22 am
#3

On the 1st patch day for 11, I noticed a jump in failures (ie. less than great success). After seeing nothing here, I was beginning to think it was just a bad day. I haven't crafted since 11.0a though.


Could the change to complexity with experimentation be causing issues for those of us who experiment in small increments?
Lycantha
Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:17 pm
#4

Im at 11 exp points.. assembly just 109 atm.


Since patch my crit fails on assembly have jumped astonishingly.


there is somewhat of a pattern, in that the first build of a gun will fail most often.. In other words, I can decide to make a DX2 schem and the first one will fail.. then I can build as many as I like and things are normal.


I hand build Laser rifles for the visible comps. Same thing.. first one will crit fail assembly, After that build 5 more all fine.


the other pattern is any loot comp. Tissue, fangs, feeds. Im afraid to use them. I'm seeing 1 in 4 builds with loot comps fail.


I use cake, not seeing a difference. New tools, etc.


I'mat a loss. I'm failing noob comps and powerups. very frustrating


Teofa

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DaBarius
Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:51 pm
#5

I notice no change...



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Summerflame
Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:38 pm
#6

dont think it means anythin, but since I got FS assembly when patch 10 ht live ive critical failed 4 times, 2 of them was yesterday just after the patch. Im guessing its just bad luck thou (guessing or hoping)





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StrandedonEarth
Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:34 pm
#7

To me it seems to be a rather streaky random generator. If you've been grinding a lot lately it brings around the streaks more often. As for complexity, re-factor a village component a few times and watch the success rates nosedive as complexity goes up past 50



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Brilyn
Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:55 am
#8

< As for complexity, re-factor a village component a few times and watch the success rates nosedive as complexity goes up past 50 >


Aye.



I refactoreda coupleup til about 60-65 or so complexity.



*Zero* crit fail issues.



(Experimentation becoming a non-possibility is a *different* issue. )



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Audi-Vosprung
Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:28 pm
#9

Sometimes you crit cause alot of lag.



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ShugFlurry
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:50 pm
#10

personally i think BF makes you crit fail more..... anyone else think this?



Shug
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Brilyn
Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:53 pm
#11

< personally i think BF makes you crit fail more..... anyone else think this? >


I frequently craft with 400+ BF.



So: no.



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FreeEnterprise
Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:50 pm
#12

It was stated somewhere that batfat factored into crafting.....


As for the original question, I have never crit failed on assembly when using pyollian cake....that is just strange that you say you did.



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ShugFlurry
Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:01 am
#13

Ive seen my experiment get screwed up a few times with 100bf. I was making all the components for a Display Tusken Rifle, PFM. PRB, Scope then had to harvest wood for the stock, got killed by a huurton and then had 2 good successess on the experiment rather than the ALL GREAT successess on the PFM, PRB and scope.

Also i screwed up some +15 cubes and +15 pastes with a good success when i had 112bf once. Other times I have always had greats



Shug
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