Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: SAC means NOTHING! Stop BSing us guys!!
/disagree
I have gone back and remade my 'personal' weapons for my rifleman alt specifically targeting SAC because, even loaded on food and drugs, I would start to see that -Too Tired- message pop up over my head during a long fight.
My guildies (BH's and PvP'ers in particular) have asked me to remake thier enhanced weapons to get the SAC down 20 or so points before working on damage.
And just yesterday, I made 2 special orders for different people who gave specific targets for thier SAC, again, because it was an issue during long fights.
Lastly, I don't see where the venom towards Mor-Dan comes from, if you want a pistol maxed out on damage with no regard to SAC, simply ask your friendly weaponsmith to make you one. I'd be also be willing to bet you can find many such guns for sale across the galaxy with no regard given to SAC. Leftovers from early post-CU crafting where we were all trying to max-out damage. I know I've got quite a few running around out there.
UrdlenThorn wrote:
NO ONE asks for low SAC and I have NEVER run out of it on my combat characters.... Just like ALL my customers, thee only thing that matters is DAMAGE.
You Jerks would have the unitiated making unsaleable weapons while you laugh and rake in the dough with your High damge low speed superior product...
I can't believe no one has pointed this out yet!!
Its been Two months!
What happened to a correspondent who has useful info-- Mor-dan is in SOE's pocket, all he cares about is a bug--- well the important stuff isn't bugs it the Flummoxed system that works as they designed it...
Between Mor Dan and the liars who post here about how important SAC is, I have come to dislike the WS forum passionatly... What is going on?
You guys must be from planet Hell...
No one has figured out how to beat the cyclopian system instagated after the combat update and have a great deal of fun in this game... There were way to have great times in SWG at various points in the game-- but post CU no one can do it.
You must track down and fight things your level... If you want ANY XP.
You can not solo things...
That caused the 4th and 5th in command of my guild of 75 peeps on Shadowfire to quit in disgust.
There was a time you could have fun in this game with the GCW but the GCW update ruined that by making bases pointless. A PVP base is impossible and a NPC base is simple.
Ksahyyykis full of stuff thats either too easy and give no XP or is impossible.. What a disappointment-out of 11 accounts my wife and I could not find one with a combat template who could have fun the day we went to Kashyyyk the first time.
But what really makes me mad is the way the community is learing to LIVE WITH IT.
AND the people who seem to form opinions on the weaponsmith board (Mor Dan, Vocal SAC weapon nuts) pretend to have a clue on what they are really dicussing rather than lookingt at the ELEPHANT IN THE LIVINGROOM.
there are like 19 posts dicussing 1/100 of a percent variance on a stat for a COMPONENT in the top 5 issues forum...
what about (sorry MOR DAN but These issues MAY NOT BE BUGS... I suggest you call Teminex right away... You're in Bed with them)
!. Scythe Blades which are the coolest looking weapon in the game, funnest to quest for, and once were the best now are USELESS.
2. Geonosian Blasters-- similar issue as above, but who could ever get in to the Geonosian Cave to get anything now...
3. USELESS WEAPONS Make Useless USELESS PROFESSIONS-- who would be a pole arm specialist if you can only lay out half the damge as a pistoleer and 1/3 the damage of a bounty hunter? What about the fencer? Where are the maces we saw in the Test center? Will they make the fencer like the Swordsman, who's only decent with one weapon, a powerhammer (SWORDsman uses a hammer FENCER uses a mace? STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!)
4. What the heck happened to squad leader rocket launcher? (this is just one particculat example). In my arrogance I spent DAYS making a run of rocket launchers after thinking there must be SOME weapon that does a bit of good damge for a squad leader. MAX 325. But 15 components, though. Oh, YEAH, I'll be making a lot of rocket launchers for all the squad leaders out there dying to do 325 max damge every 3 seconds as a master of their elite profession.
5. Impossible Foes-- Tell me one group of 8 80th-level who have done the Corvette... or a group of Nova Troopers, for that matter. Their wepaons are so much better than anything we have, half the stuff in this game is suicide....
What have they done?
My list goes on and on.. I don't have the time or the inclination to try to type out a full list? This is rediculous-- GET BUSY PEOPLE! I'll be playing Neverwinter Nights over and over again till it starts to look playable... poking my head in enough to keep my guild in stiches... LOL! you are awefully quick to call me an ... when it is soo Obvious that I am... try to think outside the box and come up with something helpful... look in the less obvious place like THE NOSE ON YOUR FACE!
UrdlenThorn wrote:
My list goes on and on.. I don't have the time or the inclination to try to type out a full list? This is rediculous-- GET BUSY PEOPLE! I'll be playing Neverwinter Nights over and over again till it starts to look playable... poking my head in enough to keep my guild in stiches... LOL! you are awefully quick to call me an ... when it is soo Obvious that I am... try to think outside the box and come up with something helpful... look in the less obvious place like THE NOSE ON YOUR FACE!
Can I have your stuff?
That's one thing you're right about. It's obvious you are.
If you posted your concerns in a reasonable manner, and without resorting to personal attacks on our new correspondent, then you would be entitled to reasonable responses.
UrdlenThorn wrote:
NO ONE asks for low SAC and I have NEVER run out of it on my combat characters.... Just like ALL my customers, thee only thing that matters is DAMAGE.
You Jerks would have the unitiated making unsaleable weapons while you laugh and rake in the dough with your High damge low speed superior product...
I can't believe no one has pointed this out yet!!
Its been Two months!
What happened to a correspondent who has useful info-- Mor-dan is in SOE's pocket, all he cares about is a bug--- well the important stuff isn't bugs it the Flummoxed system that works as they designed it...
Between Mor Dan and the liars who post here about how important SAC is, I have come to dislike the WS forum passionatly... What is going on?
You guys must be from planet Hell...
Have a most wonderful day. 
UrdlenThorn wrote:
No one has figured out how to beat the cyclopian system instagated after the combat update and have a great deal of fun in this game... There were way to have great times in SWG at various points in the game-- but post CU no one can do it.
I believe you will find a lot of people who would say the opposite of this, so cant we just agree that this is a matter of personal opinions. I myself like the combat system better, but hate what they have done to crafters/entertainers
You must track down and fight things your level... If you want ANY XP.
You can not solo things...
Well, this is jsut a matter of you finding out how to do it. Noone could solo elders when the game was first launched either. I personally am able to solo both krayts and goraxes and might I add a lot faster than in the old system.
That caused the 4th and 5th in command of my guild of 75 peeps on Shadowfire to quit in disgust.
Ive had my share of friends quit over the CU, but Im exspecting most to return as there really isnt an alternative to SWG on the market.
There was a time you could have fun in this game with the GCW but the GCW update ruined that by making bases pointless. A PVP base is impossible and a NPC base is simple.
Never pvped in my entire life, so Im gona have to take your word on this, thou Ive heard several people proclaiming that PVP is now much more fun than it was before the CU.
Ksahyyykis full of stuff thats either too easy and give no XP or is impossible.. What a disappointment-out of 11 accounts my wife and I could not find one with a combat template who could have fun the day we went to Kashyyyk the first time.
Well Ive stopped going to Kashyyk as it reminds me that we cannot craft the new quest reward weapons, however Kashyyk was never ment to be a grind planet. Its a giant themepark and is packed with content. Do the quests forget the Xps for a sec
But what really makes me mad is the way the community is learing to LIVE WITH IT.
Anyone who has followed my posting during the introduction of the CU, know that I had major issues with it. I am not however so stupid as to believe they will take it back. If the CU fails I believe they will just shutdown the game. Therefor I have now when they decided to implement it started trying to higlight the issues that needs correction for the game to be fun for me again and I believe that the dedication is much better used in that department.
AND the people who seem to form opinions on the weaponsmith board (Mor Dan, Vocal SAC weapon nuts) pretend to have a clue on what they are really dicussing rather than lookingt at the ELEPHANT IN THE LIVINGROOM.
there are like 19 posts dicussing 1/100 of a percent variance on a stat for a COMPONENT in the top 5 issues forum...
Post your own issues to make an impact. For the people who have psoted there clearly that is the most important issue for them. If you want to be heard make valied arguments in the designated thread instead of making a thread blaming the WS community.
what about (sorry MOR DAN but These issues MAY NOT BE BUGS... I suggest you call Teminex right away... You're in Bed with them)
!. Scythe Blades which are the coolest looking weapon in the game, funnest to quest for, and once were the best now are USELESS.
2. Geonosian Blasters-- similar issue as above, but who could ever get in to the Geonosian Cave to get anything now...
3. USELESS WEAPONS Make Useless USELESS PROFESSIONS-- who would be a pole arm specialist if you can only lay out half the damge as a pistoleer and 1/3 the damage of a bounty hunter? What about the fencer? Where are the maces we saw in the Test center? Will they make the fencer like the Swordsman, who's only decent with one weapon, a powerhammer (SWORDsman uses a hammer FENCER uses a mace? STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!)
4. What the heck happened to squad leader rocket launcher? (this is just one particculat example). In my arrogance I spent DAYS making a run of rocket launchers after thinking there must be SOME weapon that does a bit of good damge for a squad leader. MAX 325. But 15 components, though. Oh, YEAH, I'll be making a lot of rocket launchers for all the squad leaders out there dying to do 325 max damge every 3 seconds as a master of their elite profession.
5. Impossible Foes-- Tell me one group of 8 80th-level who have done the Corvette... or a group of Nova Troopers, for that matter. Their wepaons are so much better than anything we have, half the stuff in this game is suicide.... In all fairness this isnt really a WS bug now is it... its a question of the corvette mobs being to highlevel and thus a combat balance issue
What have they done?
My list goes on and on.. I don't have the time or the inclination to try to type out a full list? This is rediculous-- GET BUSY PEOPLE! I'll be playing Neverwinter Nights over and over again till it starts to look playable... poking my head in enough to keep my guild in stiches... LOL! you are awefully quick to call me an ... when it is soo Obvious that I am... try to think outside the box and come up with something helpful... look in the less obvious place like THE NOSE ON YOUR FACE!
Have you even had a look at this thread? Cause a lot of the issues you point out have been adressed here and has been submitted to the DEVs
Oh and I may not allways agree with Mor-dan but Ive noticed that even thou he disagrees with suggestions and issues he still submits them (as would be exspected of course) so to me hes doing very well as a correspondent.
UrdlenThorn wrote:
4. What the heck happened to squad leader rocket launcher? (this is just one particculat example). In my arrogance I spent DAYS making a run of rocket launchers after thinking there must be SOME weapon that does a bit of good damge for a squad leader. MAX 325. But 15 components, though. Oh, YEAH, I'll be making a lot of rocket launchers for all the squad leaders out there dying to do 325 max damge every 3 seconds as a master of their elite profession.
UrdlenThorn wrote:
NO ONE asks for low SAC and I have NEVER run out of it on my combat characters.... Just like ALL my customers, thee only thing that matters is DAMAGE.
You Jerks would have the unitiated making unsaleable weapons while you laugh and rake in the dough with your High damge low speed superior product...
I can't believe no one has pointed this out yet!!
Its been Two months!
What happened to a correspondent who has useful info-- Mor-dan is in SOE's pocket, all he cares about is a bug--- well the important stuff isn't bugs it the Flummoxed system that works as they designed it...
Between Mor Dan and the liars who post here about how important SAC is, I have come to dislike the WS forum passionatly... What is going on?
You guys must be from planet Hell...
This guy isn't looking for serious debate here. He's just trolling. So ignore him, and he'll probably move on...or maybe even quit the game, which would be fine by me.
And for the record, Correspondents aren't miracle workers. They don't have a red phone hotline to Devs to address all of YOUR needs. They pass questions and suggestions along to the Devs, and then maybe, someday, the Devs will deign to give them a response. They're basically meatshields to keep jerks like you off the Dev'sbacks. See how venomous you were towards Mor-dan, but hardly one bad word for the Devs? The Correspondent system is brilliant, when you look at it from that perspective. And to judge from posts like this, it apparantly works very well.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
Summerflame wrote:
UrdlenThorn wrote:
2. Geonosian Blasters-- similar issue as above, but who could ever get in to the Geonosian Cave to get anything now...
Have you been to the Geo caves lately? It's very reasonable and seems balanced about right for a small/medium sized group....but Geo blasters are still useless.
Re: SAC
My alt M. Carbineer constantly runs out action. The "special" weapons I make for that character are all low SAC. Maybelow SAC weaponsdon't sell as well to the general public, but those who know will want a low SAC weapon in their arsenal.