Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: The exploit/bug of uber weapons/components is spreading.

Nador
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:16 am
#1

This has got to be addressed asap. I brought this up over a month ago and it is happening more and more.


Guys on Bria have over 500 of these exploited components. Saw where EEMAN says its happening on his server also.


If you have information on this, please report it to Taurin, he is the develepor that handles exploits for SOE. You can find his name on the announcements forum near the bottom of the page or on the discussion forum at the top of the first page.




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DarkCipher
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:18 am
#2

ABSOLUTELY...


Everyone, please make sure this is addressed, this hits on the same level as the resource duping exploit... (which im glad to say I helped stop on radiant along with rosae)..



Fortunately, if someone is using these 'exploited' components and selling them..all they are doing is targeting themselves because its pretty obvious at master level whos doing so...


Thanks for bringing this to my attention.




Leviathan
Master WeaponSmith
Radiant Server
Weaponsmith Correspondent
Nador
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:38 am
#3

link back to the insane success thread



http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=9315&highlight=#M9315




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EEMAN
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:42 am
#4

was this to get around the resource gate on the barrels or the actual weapon itself? i cant remember



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Nador
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:54 am
#5

it can be used to get around either EE.





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CarverOrmazd
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:29 am
#6

I hate to resurrect this thread, but some a$$hat on Bria (*cough*Police*cough*) is trying to say that this is some form of duping exploit involving krayt tissues.


Could the experts on this lovely forum please correct the moron? Thanks!




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TheOnes
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:30 am
#7

Hmm....if you are blind, you would check Bria server, and note the "Proof" post concerning it, so at this time, duping is not the issue, however explointing is.



Origins - Creation - dvn
First Master Weaponsmith - Master Armorsmith - Bria Server
Check http://www.jenus.com/swg/ for Weapon Inventory (Ignore that)
Keren, Naboo (Planetary Map, Waypoint 3220 2350) (And this)
Bestine, Tatooine (Planetary Map, Waypoint -1670 -3030) (And that)
Nador
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:41 am
#8

its an exploit carver, the stats are just similar enough to the base 30 krayt tissue weapons to smoke screen it or lead folks off on a different idea.


The powerhandlers and guns they are making from these are bugged and shouldn't be available without using kryat tissues so it causes a severe imbalance in the crafting community.


Police should be commended for trying to bring a stop to it. You don't make hundreds or thousands of an exploited item without knowing your making something that shouldn't be possible.




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Rodric
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:08 am
#9

What makes you conclude it is an exploit and not just a lucky roll?


I know months ago I made a schema for Advanced Projectile Feeds that was 42/.42 andI have never been able to get better than 38/.38 since with the same materials.Believe me I have tried, as the schema is about to expire and I will be taking a hit when it does.


The morning I made it I was out sampling for materials using my robot so I could experiment. I was making the weapons by hand for a few hours in a row and suddenly the 42/.42 showed up. I was not mix matching, changing materials, or cloning. My techinique is pretty simple: Start experimenting, if you get anything less than great/amazing abort and start again. When I got 3 perfect subs then I would make an fwg5.


It was just a simple lucky roll of the dice. Maybe there is a rare super success that show up and I personally think that is a good thing. How boring would it be if every weaponsmith had exactly the same stuff? I think it gives the vendors some flavor when I know that one of the other weaponsmiths has a Two Handed Curved Sword that is just plain better than mine.


I hope it is not a bug and that it is a permenant part of the crafting scene. If it can be reproduced then it will surely be exposed and then everyone will have the benefits of full experimentation or stopped and so be it, but think how much more fun it would be if there was a chance of hitting the experimentation lottery every 1,000 tries.

Nador
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:27 am
#10

rodric, i reproduced the results 3 seperate times. The first time i didn't realize what i had done.The second time i was like, didn't i just see this before and started playing around with it till i made it happen again.


a slight increase like your mentioning is an amazing success i believe. 2 to 4 points is not going to kill the crafting community.


The issue that this pertains to happens when you make an item and through a specific process you make the next item and the server transposes the first items stats onto the second item.




Nador's Weapons
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Shop at your pleasure near the city of Keren, loc 3142 and 3641
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TheOnes
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:28 am
#11

Problem is, on Bria server, the stats of powerhandlers are identical to stats of a Krayt Powerhandler, not just a luck roll. So let's say if it was a lucky roll, then we're looking at minimum/maximum/speed increase on a good roll, in this case, only the damage was increased 30, and the speed was decreased by -.3 similiar if not exactly the saem as a normal power handler.



Origins - Creation - dvn
First Master Weaponsmith - Master Armorsmith - Bria Server
Check http://www.jenus.com/swg/ for Weapon Inventory (Ignore that)
Keren, Naboo (Planetary Map, Waypoint 3220 2350) (And this)
Bestine, Tatooine (Planetary Map, Waypoint -1670 -3030) (And that)
DarkCipher
Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:26 am
#12

I sent this information to Xahn and Taurin as well.... I have heard of the problems before as well, and Im sure in some cases there are lucky rolls (that are not exploits)... think these are 2 seperate issues because the exploit increases output considerably....



Leviathan
Master WeaponSmith
Radiant Server
Weaponsmith Correspondent
milkoway
Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:34 pm
#13

Actually Adune is wrong with the lucky roll,
I was crafting Spraysticks manually and all experimentations would max to using about 6 experimentation points and the remaining 4 i would just use on efficiency, when suddenly a lucky roll came up... I was able to use all 10 experimentation on this particular spraystick using the same resources on damage. Now this particular spraystick had +30 damage and -2 speed... too bad i didnt make a schem of it .



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