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Thread: Scythe Blade Crafting

Terinath
Wed May 05, 2004 9:10 pm
#1

I have been trying to find good components for a scythe blade since I want to go 2 hand swordsman soon. I already have one I bought from a vendor but its just okay. I am currently a master TK and have been going to the Geonosian caves the last few days trying to find good things to use for the Scythe blade and need feedback on what I should have a weaponsmith use in the end to make it.


I believe the Scythe takes 60 Rhodium Steel, 30 Chromium Aluminum, and 2 identical sword cores. I know you can loot identical sword cores at the cave but so far I have only found the worst ones, none with yellow text and higher stats. I also heard you can give a weaponsmith the swordcore schematic to use and he can make them that way. I have found several of these schematics and have been told that they require 50 Neutronium Steel, 1 Geonosian Power Cube, and 1 Enhancement.


So my questions are these...


Which is better looted sword cores or crafted ones? Is the Geonosian Solidifying Agent what is used in the enhancement slot of the swordcore schematic? And which of the following would be best to use in the crafted swordcores?


I have found these yellow text items at the cave:


6 identical Geonosian Solidifying Agents:

Max Damage: +12

Unit Integrity: 1070


4 Identical Yellow Geonosian Power Cubes:

Base Effect: +3%

Min/Max: +10


4 identical Red Geonosian Power Cubes:

Health Encumberance: -5


ActinEncumberance: -4


MindEncumberance: -6

Special Move cost Health: -6


Special Move cost Action: -6


Special Move cost Mind: -5


4 identical Green Geonosian Power Cubes:

Integrity: 9540

Unit Integrity: 380


Which of the above would help make the best sword cores for the scythe blade schematic. Are any of these good loots? I have only been going a few days and not really sure how good they are. If anyone can offer any advice on what I can do to help find the best resources to make a great Scythe blade I'd appreciate it!

Thanks!

Terinath
psikobunny
Wed May 05, 2004 9:59 pm
#2

I am what is called an interested non expert. I'm the Swordsman working with my guild's Wpnsmith to make me a better scythe.


The stuff you have is good, and depending on the quality of resources on your server, should allow you to make a good-very goodblade. I'm not an afficionado of Power cubes yet, so I dont know just how good they get, and were your rate on the scale, but here's my recommendation:


Your weaponsmith should make his own Geonosian sword cores, they will almost always be superiort looted cores. For the Scythe you will need minimum 3 identical power cubes to make 2 identical cores. Add 3 identical Solidifying Agents if desired.


The Scythe has a good base damage, and you can always pray for a damage slice, so I recommend using your Red HAM reduction cubes. Scythe are very fast, and can kill you when unbuffed if you dont do something to lower the HAM. So, 3 red cubes+ 3 pastes= 2 identical sword cores, which equals one sword.


I do not know what the maximum number of identical cube or paste that can drop is, but you need a minimum of 7 to contemplate makin a run of multiple Scythe Blades, thus saving charges on your 2 charge scythe blade schematic.





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Terinath
Wed May 05, 2004 10:13 pm
#3

So far I think I have found more than 7 identical white geonosian cubes but they aren't giving any bonuses. The red, greens and yellows I have found in 2s and 4s. The pastes I think I have only found in up to 6 identical so far...but I haven't found a lot of them yet, ony about 3 or 4 drops...


Is there any way to use Kryat tissue to enahance a Scythe or would that replace the geonosian stuff? Or is Kryat stuff only for ranged weapons? I have some just been saving it forever.


Thanks for the info, hopefully I find some better stuff yet. I saw somewhere that someone looted 4% +14 min/max yellow cubes, so not sure how good those get.


JohnAdams
Wed May 05, 2004 11:21 pm
#4

There are probably other places you can find this. I think there is a note stickied about new loot drops. Check that.


Crafted cores are almost always better than looted ones. I think mine come out to 43/43, but that's just a guess. At any rate, unless you find some 40+ cores, let the WS craft them.


It's Carbonite steel, not Rhodium (thank God). Your weaponsmith should have both this and Neutronium steel on hand. It's a lot more likely they'll have 8-900+ on the relevant stats than anything you'll be able to harvest or buy.


If you want the best sword, find a 12 point master. We'll all be able to max damage, but they will be able to add integrity, range or lower HAM some. If you want the best, that's the way to go


You'll need Yellow cubes and solidifying agent. Each adds a base of +10. Anything over that will be indicated and will be a bonus. You'll need at least 3 identical of each - one for the schematic, 2 for the sword. If you bring drops of 5 or 7, the weaponsmith will be very happy. Green cubes are best used in rifles, red in armor.


Core schematic is probably not needed, but helpful. Scythe schematic will be needed. Just because it's a 2 use schematic, even if you brought cubes, agent and core schematic, I'd still charge you 100k to make the sword...at least. We can make so few of these, you'll pay just for the use of the schematic.


What you have now will make a pretty good, but not the best sword. Not sure what the upside is on these things, But what you have is a little above base.





CrazyBob - grumpy old weaponsmith
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DrkSyde
Thu May 06, 2004 6:04 am
#5

The Master WS you choose to make you your scythe should have the best available raw resources to make the best possible scythe if they have been a MWS for a while and have done their job and collected the best resources your server has had to offer... chances on you collecting any resources better is slim....ok now comes your part... you need to get the Scythe schematic, collect minimum 3 yellow power cubes( adds damage) and 3 solid agents (also adds damge), and a geonosian sword core schematic...


The Geo power cubes/solids/sword core schematic are looted drops as i'm sure you already know... but the solids and yellow cubes can differ in damage for each ones looted... i have seen +10 and I have seen +18's all depends how lucky you are ....so at the weakest you will get a +10 dmg from the solid and a +10 dmg from the cube..... sooo if the MWS has good resources for the sword cores then you will have somewhere around 60max dmg on the cores ...now if you happen to get lucky and loot any already made geo sword cores with 60+ max damage and at least 2 with same serial number (looted off of same kill) then it will be just as good as the crafted ones using the above listed enhancements... now of course if you loot better solids and better yellow cubes your cores and therefore your scythe will end up being better also ...so it all depends how luck you are at looting and how long you want to wait to get that loot if you ever will ....( i always have the worst loot luck for something i want, lol) GL to you and I hope this helps


also FYI krayt tissue can only be used in weapons as enhancements for ranged weapons using a power handler...





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JBushesq
Thu May 06, 2004 9:17 am
#6

Everything Drk said about the loots right.


One thing however, everyone seems to have listed a few reasources incorrect at some point or another...The scyth itself takes Carbonate Steel, and Phirk Alum...and for the player crafted cores, its neutronium steel (Sorry about the spelling :smileywink.


Hope this helps



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Osrub_Bria
Thu May 06, 2004 9:25 am
#7

These people have been all giving you good information, so I'm just going to add something -


On my personal experience, I have had two people in my guild who have gone hunting in the geo caves for a Geonosian Sonic Blaster schematic, and nothing else. This took them about two weeks of constantly hunting in the caves, and all the while they didn't care or want any of the other loot they got. They came back and filled about 4 of my factories with geonosian loot.


From the amount of stuff I got, it seemed like high quality LOOTED geo sword cores were MUCH more common then yellow cubes. And some of the sword cores were much higher stats than the craftable geo sword cores.


For example, one set of looted sword cores I had was like 61min/66max -0.746 speed, which is definately much better than I'm capable of crafting.


So, even though MWS's may tell you usually to trash your geo sword cores because they can make better, check the stats - and if the damage isn't 25min/25max, then you aren't looking at a base geo sword core, and you should definately let your MWS know so he can compare



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Terinath
Thu May 06, 2004 11:46 am
#8

Thanks for all the good information! I have found numerous schematics for both the sword cores and reinforcement cores so far so I am set there. As for good sword cores I haven't found any yellow text ones that are better than the regular 25 min/max ones which is dissappointing because nearly every one of my reinforcement cores I have looted was yellow text and better than the base ones. I am going to keep trying though to see if I can't find better yellow cubes and pasteor loot drops in the numbers needed to at least make a factory run of 2 swords. Thanks so much for the help everyone! I will post anything new I get that might help up the stats on the weapon if I find any.
Isvurx
Fri May 07, 2004 6:58 am
#9

Ok, this might be a stupid question but I'm no WS and would like to be certain.


As i understand it Rancor Teeth are sword core replacements, can they be used to craft a scythe?
Krogchoi
Fri May 07, 2004 7:22 am
#10

stop me from wrong, but I don't think you can make a scythe blade with looted geo sword cores.
When you open the schematic and try to make a sword, it asks for 2 identical sword cores _from_a_factory_crate_
Well, maybe it used to be different, but that's what happened to me yesterday evening when I tried to make a scythe.



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Isvurx
Fri May 07, 2004 7:34 am
#11

From factory crate means that they must have the same serials, looted cores are fine.
Terinath
Fri May 07, 2004 2:33 pm
#12

I finally looted some yellow text sword cores today. I believe they were +64 min, +32 max with a -.513 speed. I believe there were 6 identical ones. Are these going to be better or worse than using crafted ones?
DrkSyde
Fri May 07, 2004 4:38 pm
#13

you sure they are 64 min and 32 max or is that backwards if it is really 32min 64max they are nice, = to a core made with +10 solids and +10 yellow cubes ( or even a bit better) depending on WS resources also



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