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Thread: Ok someone pushed my buttons.. aparently 900dmg Unsliced T21's are possible

CorenLanra
Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:39 pm
#1






Spinnthrift wrote:



What about player crafted weapons - using Krayt Tissues and looted barrels and stocks - you can take a T-21 to around 1600 max damage. Would you deny the player who spent the time looting those tissues/barrels and stocks his weapon because he can outdamage you? It's crafted and would surely beat many looted weapons... wouldn't it?



Edited for smelling pistakes.

Message Edited by Spinnthrift on 03-19-2005 04:33 PM




CorenLanra Wrote:

I think you are smokin' something there pal.


Base T21 maxes 410-415 unsliced on most servers, with a stock. Assuming you mean 1600max with powerup 1200max sliced, you are talking about an approx ~900 dmg T21 UNSLICED. I am not sure about you, but I have never heard of a 500 dmg set of 11 krayt tissue drop anywhere, or even some legendary rifle barrels that would offset that.




He replied...

Exceptional Barrels, Stocks and Tissues, with a half decent damage slice would push over 1500 max. Exceptional Stocks are +100min/max as are barrels, exceptional tissues are +300 max. My standard fare in T-21 was 411 unsliced, but me and a couple of WS mates went to the theoretical ends to see what could be pushed out. And it was including a pup.

I'd be curious to see what legendary's would do to this.

It's all about the time you put in hunting to what you get out.

~Edit~ Actually... the real crunch was trying to see if it was possible to hit the speed cap with a flame thrower. It's quite easy to make a 2.0 speed flamer before slice, but hitting the 1.16 speed needed to cap... that's another story. ~EndEdit~

~Edit #2~ I wish I were smoking something, but I'm afraid with my future career choice - that road is somewhat off limits. My figures are correct though - if you use the right looted components as was stated in my original post. Not meaning to sound overly knowitall, but I know my components, mechanics and systems. Also AFAIK Legendary Acklay Bones will go to 650/650 mix/max from my knowledge, but reduce speed and accuracy, legendary Spider Venom goes to 900 power, the list goes on... all components craftable into some silly weapons/poisons etc... ~EndEdit~

Message Edited by Spinnthrift on 03-22-2005 10:16 AM

Message Edited by Spinnthrift on 03-22-2005 10:24 AM


CorenLanra wrote:All is great in theory... In theory you might have someone that is patient enough to hold on to these exceptional loots you speak of. I haven't seen any stocks over 100 dmg or any barrels over 100dmg posted anywhere to get even close to what you are talking. What theoretical breakdown are you talkin for these specific parts? Has _anyone_ ever posted screenshots of these? I'd wager that an exceptional weapon would drop long before you could loot the components to top it.
Have *they* held on.. no... would I? Different question. There are a few screenies of weapons made up with the individual pieces - there's exceptional barrels on the WS forum I think, although they are rare. Took me a long time to actually piece together the information to work it out with the guys, but we've seen enough between us to know what stats can go to.
I'm a Commando now and looking for faster than -0.4 speed barrels, so far even exceptional barrels tend to only be -0.4 speed. Of the ones I've seen.
Lemme go see if I can find the barrel screenie!
BBS.
Couldn't find an exceptional barrel clicky, so I brought you an exceptional scope clicky instead.

Message Edited by Spinnthrift on 03-24-2005 10:32 AM





Still haven't said what dmg barrels or stock you planned on looting Scopes arent used in T21.
For example you would need a 300dmg set of ELEVEN krayt tissue, +111 dmg barrel and +140dmg stock to equal a 900dmg T21 Unsliced, then pray for 35% dmg slice to even hope of getting near 1200 to pup to 1600, you see why I said you were smokin? I haven't seen any screenshots or proof of any component loots anywhere close to those values. It just would never ever happen, not even if you sacraficed Leia to the slicing & loot gods.
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I dunno why I just can't let this go.. Does _anyone_ here have screenshots of this uber loot? How is it I've never seen anything close?

Message Edited by CorenLanra on 03-24-2005 01:41 PM



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Irxosskisx
Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:45 pm
#2

Possible..... yes


Probable...... not in one life time


But the end result would be worth a rifleman's soul. hhehe



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CorenLanra
Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:53 pm
#3

My argument that it isnt even possible even with the high limits of legendary component drops. I still haven't seen any 300dmg tissues or barels or stocks that even across all servers put together could make a T21 900 unsliced.



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EldritchArms
Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:41 pm
#4






Va-Mei wrote:

Even if someone was able to pull together all those loot comps, and it took a perfect slice, what would it be worth?



It'd be worth some incredible braggings rights for the smith that has his/her name listed as creator.




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P__Day
Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:58 pm
#5

Hm well if you look at it this way, i have no doubt that loot components like this exist, but to get


1. exceptional barrel


1. exceptional stock


11 exceptional krayt tissues


All in the hands of 1 person to craft. and lastly..... 10 creds say it gets a speed slice
CorenLanra
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:17 pm
#6

I still doubt that these components have _ever_ spawned. I've seen tons of uber loot screenshots but none of em add up to 900dmg unsliced t21's.



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ShugFlurry
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:25 pm
#7

Let's say for good measure you get a crit success on the ABPH and the T21 itself



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P__Day
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:32 pm
#8






CorenLanra wrote:
I still doubt that these components have _ever_ spawned. I've seen tons of uber loot screenshots but none of em add up to 900dmg unsliced t21's.





i agree, ive seem some crazy stuff, but never stocks, ive seen barrels around 35 max but with an insane range mod , but ive never seen a set of 11 capped krayt tissues
EdOWar
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:46 pm
#9

A long while ago someone looted some legendary advanced weapon stocks. I don't remember their exact stats, but I'm pretty sure they didn't hit +140 max damage. One was put into a T-21, which hit over max damage unsliced (not sure if krayt tissues were used too, but I would have to imagine they were).


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P__Day
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:56 pm
#10

Still point being the chance of getting


1. legendary barrel


1. legendary stock


11 legendary tissues


is about as big as finding a virgin in the red light district
CorenLanra
Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:47 pm
#11

Even legendary I don't think it is possible to hit 900... gotta stick to my guns here



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P__Day
Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:10 pm
#12

Well if you go with legendary IE 350 max tissues your up to about 760, add say 50 for a +90 stock and you hit 840, then a 60 damage barrel to hit 900.


Ive seen wierder things crafted
SeaRaptor
Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:18 pm
#13






CorenLanra wrote:
Even legendary I don't think it is possible to hit 900... gotta stick to my guns here



In my professional opinion, I agree. Not that our opinions mean any more than this fellow's, but there you have it.




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