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Thread: First Advanced Laser Rifles.. How Am I Doing? (serious)

Devero
Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:39 am
#1

These are the first two Laser Rifles I have made using advanced subcomponents.


They are NOT Sliced. I would like to know if they are getting fairly decent or not.


They do not have stocks, scopes or other optional components.


Laser Rifle 1:


Spd: 6.2


Dmg: 41/371


Wnd: 15.4%


HAM: 15/23/62


Laser 2 is same cept HAM is 14/23/62 and wound is 15.8%


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Honest feedback appreciated.. good and bad. Also tips to tweak them.


Rikk Riix - Tarquinas Master Weaponsmith


coughhakka
Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:11 am
#2

That's a fine weapon for a first attempt...good job!


Mine are 42-394 5.X speed (no stock)


52-413 (with stock)




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LLJK_Griz
Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:20 am
#3

See if you can get better metals,they'll improve it tolike 396 max 5.7.


Use regular scope experimented for efficiency, +10 accuracy for 1/1/1 HAM is nice. Also don't use adv barrel, the speed loss isn't worth the small damage and accuracy increases (especially now that rifleman has that huge accuracy bonus from the sniping tree).




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Devero
Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:57 am
#4

Thanks for the tip! I'l try the regular barrels and experimented scopes!


ttyl


Rikk Riix

Stryker1204
Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:17 pm
#5

Normal scopes can get to 0/0/0 Ham with high OQ copper (cobei on Eclipse) and with additional skill tapes will add up to +14 accuracy..



My laser rifles are 42-399 5.7 I believe.. so.. some resource tweaking is probably possible.. but resources differ across the servers so weapons will always vary..






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Blackbri
Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:30 pm
#6

I wanted to respond to this only because I am on the same server as the originator of the post. Last night I made a laser rifle that was 64-427 6.0. I did add a stock that was 33/33/.281 with 28/28/28 ham increases. leaving the highest ham cost at 89.

Stil this would have been 394 in max at 5.8 at least with out the stock.

Send me a tell in game and I will tell you the materials I used and help you in any way that I can.

Sincerely,
Kona Emgrey
Master Weaponsmith
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Moenia, Naboo



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Xipe
Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:36 pm
#7

I thought stocks were a No-No... ? Or should I put them only on T21s (once I get Master Weaponsmith)?



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LLJK_Griz
Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:49 pm
#8

Don't use them for anything. The HAM is way too high, the speed penalty sucks, and the damage increase isn't nearly enough to make it worth the penalties.



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Stryker1204
Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:01 pm
#9

I get LOADS of master rifleman and carbineers that want the stocks..


They use them for PvP purposes and don't really care about HAMs because they are buffed anyway..


They are specialized use weapons to be sure.. but there ARE uses for them..





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Nicolasa
Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:10 pm
#10






Stryker1204 wrote:

I get LOADS of master rifleman and carbineers that want the stocks..


They use them for PvP purposes and don't really care about HAMs because they are buffed anyway..


They are specialized use weapons to be sure.. but there ARE uses for them..







I definitely agree with this. Master's could care less about speed. And if you're buffed, then HAM isn't a big deal either. So for PvP Stock's are a very good thing.



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LemyDaBigHairyWookie
Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:05 pm
#11

my advanced laser rifle (BPH and Barrel) is 5.7 42-400


add an advanced stock to it and you are looking at 6.0spd 70-470 but the ham cost is higher than a non-stocked T-21


I find even using 970+ materials in the BPH/barrel yields around 20 min/max LESS than the advanced parts for about a 0.2 spd decrease... i only use stocks when requested and never use scopes unless required (Rocket launcher)




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VVorf
Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:36 am
#12

with the right resources you can get


regular scope


wound 3


wpn range +10


HAM 0/0/0



i was able to get advance scope today down to


wound 5


wpn range +12


HAM 1/1/1



human WS no extra tapes or bonuses...


weapon assembly 100


weapon experimentation 100




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Blackbri
Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:55 am
#13

I am not sure if other WS's have picked up on this but there is now a use for scopes and stocks with high ham costs.

MOUNT WEAPONS!!!

Since you cant use specials the ham costs dont matter. You want the fastest, highest damage weapon no matter the ham costs. I have a few discerning rifleman that have brought this to my attention. So I am now producing a line of weapons to be fired while mounted.

Just a thought for the boards.


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Master Weaponsmith
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Moenia, Naboo



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