Weaponsmith Archive

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Ecnirp wrote:

I was waiting for the posts to disapear.

Although it was not the wise thing to do, I don't blame Mor'dan for his posts - the issue needs serious attention before it is pushed out live.

Maybe if a "Red Name" focus thread or Feedback thread had been started then people wouldn't feel the need to raise the issue in other forums.

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absolutely ridiculous.

i gave up, its like explaining things to a toddler.

I actually think the worst thing is the animosity (spelling?) that has risen from this.

As I said before it got deleted we and the entertainers should stand together as we are both a minority.

Im sure if we stopped yelling at each other we could work a new kind of buff out that was needed (essential?) but didnt ruin our profession and its endgoal.

Message Edited by Summerflame on 08-25-2005 08:27 PM

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Summerflame wrote:

I actually think the worst thing is the enomosity (spelling?) that has risen from this.

As I said before it got deleted we and the entertainers should stand together as we are both a minority.

Im sure if we stopped yelling at each other we could work a new kind of buff out that was needed (essential?) but didnt ruin our profession and its endgoal.

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Animosity

I agree - there needs to be productive communication between the entertainers and the crafters about this.

This sort of thing needs to be discussed at the concept level really - not when it gets put on the TC.

But since we are there now, if any of the Devs are reading this - please can we have some input from yourselves and 2-way discussion before this goes live. There is definately a need to look at the specific crafting professions and their current situation and how this will effect them.

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Summerflame wrote:

Im sure if we stopped yelling at each other we could work a new kind of buff out that was needed (essential?) but didnt ruin our profession and its endgoal.

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first step is making people understand this is bad at all for any one of the crafting professions.

even that point was lost on 99 percent of the people discussing it.

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Ecnirp wrote:

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Summerflame wrote:

I actually think the worst thing is the enomosity (spelling?) that has risen from this.

As I said before it got deleted we and the entertainers should stand together as we are both a minority.

Im sure if we stopped yelling at each other we could work a new kind of buff out that was needed (essential?) but didnt ruin our profession and its endgoal.

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Animosity

I agree - there needs to be productive communication between the entertainers and the crafters about this.

This sort of thing needs to be discussed at the concept level really - not when it gets put on the TC.

But since we are there now, if any of the Devs are reading this - please can we have some input from yourselves and 2-way discussion before this goes live. There is definately a need to look at the specific crafting professions and their current situation and how this will effect them.

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I just wanted to pop in and thank you folks for the effort you all have been giving in the entertainer/dancer/musician forums. Since the first hint of this was brought to my attention I have been (mostly silently)devouring the expansive discussions posted there and here.

In particular, I want to thank the people who have already responded to THIS thread, as you all seem to have been presenting cogent &comprehensivearguments to the entertainers, whether they have been well received or not. In many cases I would have a reaction to a post, but a few posts down I would find one of you had responded with exactly my concerns in a much more clear manner than I ever could have.

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noSup4u wrote:

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Summerflame wrote:

Im sure if we stopped yelling at each other we could work a new kind of buff out that was needed (essential?) but didnt ruin our profession and its endgoal.

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first step is making people understand this is bad at all for any one of the crafting professions.

even that point was lost on 99 percent of the people discussing it.

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GrooperNugent wrote:

I just wanted to pop in and thank you folks for the effort you all have been giving in the entertainer/dancer/musician forums. Since the first hint of this was brought to my attention I have been (mostly silently)devouring the expansive discussions posted there and here.

In particular, I want to thank the people who have already responded to THIS thread, as you all seem to have been presenting cogent &comprehensivearguments to the entertainers, whether they have been well received or not. In many cases I would have a reaction to a post, but a few posts down I would find one of you had responded with exactly my concerns in a much more clear manner than I ever could have.

Thanks for helping educate the populace to our concerns.

/tiphat

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thats way cool of you to mention, and you used my very favorite emote.

/tiphat to ya too sir.

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noSup4u wrote:
just because we do not have a viable developed alternative does not mean we do not have the right to object to one aspect of the buff (resources of course) that is damaging to our crafting professions while still supporting the rest of the proposed buffs.

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