Weaponsmith Archive

The following edit is for the reasoning of bumping this post...

There was recently a publish that involved adding loot to the game. Adding loot albeit is a great idea to keep warriors hunting and using up decay on equipment and other things, but it isn't "real" content and will only wreak havoc on the crafters(where the new loot involves a crafter) in the long run in order to keep up with an ever changing market that demands more loot altered weapons and less of the regular old run of the mill variety. This is important because of spacing or storage issues at the moment. Currently I believe almost every crafter that has multiple factories also uses them for some type of storage, but this is still not enough space to store all the new loot the old loot and the continually growing resource stockpiles. So you might ask why is this post relevant still? Well this post is relevant still because with the new loot and loot drop rates for those loots I am noticing an increase in rates of other loots also. Now maybe people are just killing more things now that there is new loot to be had, but this change has been occuring slightly little by little over time, and its now once again at one of those critical break off points. The loot system needs some love, but the way to encourage people about the loot is not to break the crafters backs, or degrade views of normally well crafted top of the line weapons. The mind set of the top of the line weapon has shifted itself from crafted to enhanced but still crafted and now to straight looted. If you want an elite weapon in this game you aren't going to buy 50 normal weapons and get a 35% damage slice, you are going to check your forums, check with your buddies and attempt to loot one. Now with certain weapons this still isn't true, and enhanced weapons are still godly. BUT we now have an economy where the crafters are competing with the fighters in bids for loots and thus prices are continuing to go up for loots an we weaponsmith no longer profit from our enhanced work.

Once again, keep the responses coming, even though this is an old thread this is a current issue, and I would like some up to date opinions.

Message Edited by Trean on 12-01-2004 01:18 AM

Im all for good loot but drops like those are just silly. Why not add 99% resist armor drops while theyre at it?

Afraid to say this is the case, I was in an auction for 90% BH armour leggings, very nice but I was soon out bid at 3.2 million.

lol....why dont they just remove crafters from the game and get it over with? *rolleyes*

I posted my concerns about this 2 days after the corvette went live, on these very forums, and got responses like "oh relax it's only a couple of low condition weapons" or "you WS are greedy, what about the non-crafters?" etc.

SWG is turning into l3wt wars, and I can tell you now that the only reason why it is, is because the marketers of this game understand the addictive play qualities of the uber loot system. What better way to keep full combat characters (arguably the majority of the player base) paying their $15 p/m, than to offer them the gambling system that loot camping/wh0ring becomes in all MMORPGs. The devs wanted to do this one different but the marketing dept sees a drop off in active accounts and calls a meeting telling them to implement this.

Oh and please don't come in here saying that this is some bug of NPC's dropping weapons they shouldn't: you're only fooling yourself if you still believe that.

Let me state I love to see exceptional and legendary weapons, but those are rare drops and are no threat to my business, as they are held by only a few players, who usually hang them on a wall for fear of breaking them...

I would like to point out that yes it was in fact stated that loot would not interfere with our trades, but what everyone is overlooking is the fact that this is a loot drop. I have a WS on nartius, I also have a swordsman who I would love to get a legendary power hammer for, but the problems is that after hunting nighsister elders for 2 weeks straight, yes 2 weeks 12 to 16 hrs a day killing everything within a 1kmsquarearea at the stronghold I am yet to loot a single legendary weapon, not even a vibro axe over 590 max damage. My point being this, there may be super awesome weapon drops, but they are extremely rare and only the trade forums seem to make them seem that they are dropping every two minutes.

I'm not even a weapon smith but i agree, uber uquipment should come from uber components that are dropped, and a gun that can do 1900 damage should require the correct combination of more than onevery rare items crafted by a master weaponsmith, not just one lucky drop from a night sister

I would think that someone playing since at least 9-23-2003 would know by now that there ARE very powerful weapons that can be looted. Maybe you have led a very sheltered SWG life? Well, they are a reality; you may have never seen one, but they do exist.

There are 100s of combat characters per server... not everyone gets these loot drops, they are uber rare

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Tviter wrote:

There is no überloot. This game have very bad loot. A T21 with 1900 Max dmg? Dont think so. Ur a fool if u belive that. I have never seen a T21 droped at all. But the loot should not drop from static spawns though. Just random same **edit** what u r killing. Then we have the lootcampers away.. Hate them.

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Sorry to have to tell you:

Exceptional T-21 as looted from an FSNPC on Dantooine months ago. Note that this is only exceptional: Legendary have even higher values, but with reference to the thread topic this is NOT what the poster is talking about. None of us have a problem with these type of drops, we have a problem with the type we are getting since Publish 8 went live.

am I the only weaponsmith not concerned with these rare loot drops?

Most of these weapons are very low condition, if they get repaired chances are the repair will either lose 200 condition, or even out at the level it is at (so if it was 640/1000 it will even out at 640/640

The rarity of these weapons is definatly not taking away from any of our business, and if any of those ever get aucitoned only the super rich will beable to afford it.

As soon as they fix the bug that lets DOTs work after a railed repair, or condition 0 that wont be an issue either.


Sometimes I think people get overly dramatic about things that arent that big a deal. I have not seen a slump in my business because someon elooted an uber T21 on Valcyn, chances are the person only uses it in PvP or in hunts vs/ Krayt Dragons or on the Corvet. THey are not weapons a person will waste and use every day.


Now if these are dropping everytime then it's a problem, but they arent common place, so where is the issue?