Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Thoughts on my pricing and the weapons themselves.
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Ybagi
Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:58 pm
#1
prices look insanely high to me.
but each server has its own pricing scheme.
there are some inconsistent prices within your own stuff though
2h Rancor CurvieSword 3.5(34-266) = 700k
OtsCorp Geo2hCurvie 2.9(44-228) = 25k
I think the GEO looks alot better especially for 675k less
I also think standard 2H curved are around 249-60 2.5 on most servers, so you might want to invest in resources rather than loot.
AcklayHamma 6.0(160-488) = 350k
OtsCorp GeoHamma5.4(143-487) = 25k
Again I like the geo better for the same reasons
(2)Grooved 2h Sword = 200k/ Sword
These are dime a dozen on Lowca, your server might be different.
Rancor1hCurvieSword 3.6(38-258) = 300k
OtsCorp GeoRiffi 3.5(143-246) = 100k
The gaderiffi is vastly superior to your curved sword, yet it is 200K less
- C12 2.7(211-890) 25 Crate * 6 = 60k/crate
- C12 2.7(211-890) 20 Crate* 1 = 55k/crate
- Imperial Detonator 2.7(1079-2226) 25 Crate * 1 = 100k
not sure what the difference is betweent he first two...
Imp detonators are the same price I charge, but the price seems low compared to your C12, grenade prices are all over the place now, so I wouldn't bother changing the prices if your happy
Gabriele
Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:03 pm
#2
Thank you for your input.
As I mentioned I am still new to ws and its difficult to get the cash going that is necessary and trying to beat out other ws that have 12 pt.
I think I need to make adjustments here. Even more input will help.
Gabriele
Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:42 am
#3
OtsCorp Current Stock of all Weapons at Coronet Store!!!
Located in Junction, Coronet
Please Note that I'm still new to WeaponSmith so some items may need price adjustments. I'm open to suggestions.
I pretty much specialize in Melee Loot Made weapons and I don't like to slice items as I have bad luck.
2hMelee (Rancor)
- 2h Rancor CurvieSword 3.9(25-275) = 800k
- 2h Rancor CurvieSword 3.8(24-275) = 785k
- 2h Rancor CurvieSword 3.5(34-266) = 700k
2hMelee (Geo's)
- OtsCorp UberGeoHamma 5.2(152-508) = 1250k
- OtsCorp GeoHamma 5.4(144-482) = 20k
- OtsCorp GeoHamma5.4(143-487) = 25k
- OtsCorp GeoHamma 5.5(144-482) = 20k
- OtsCorp Geo2hCurvie 2.9(44-228) = 25k
2hMelee (Acklays)
- AcklayHamma 6.0(160-488) = 350k
- AcklayHamma 6.0(160-488) = 350k
- AcklayHamma 6.0(193-554) = 1900k
- AcklayHamma 6.0(189-565) = 2500k
- AcklayHamma 6.0(194-565) = 2500k
2hMelee (LootDropped)
- (2)Grooved 2h Sword = 200k/ Sword
1hMelee (Rancor)
- RancorRyyk 3.8(38-262) = 300k
- Rancor1hCurvieSword 3.6(38-258) = 300k
Batons
- OtsCorp GeoRiffi 3.5(143-243) = 100k
- OtsCorp GeoRiffi 3.5(143-246) = 100k
- OtsCorp AcklayRiffi 4.1(190-321) = 1500k
Sliced Weaponry
- Includes dmg sliced Scythe, Ryyk Blades, and more.
Grenades
- C12 2.7(211-890) 25 Crate * 6 = 60k/crate
- C12 2.7(211-890) 20 Crate* 1 = 55k/crate
- Imperial Detonator 2.7(1079-2226) 25 Crate * 1 = 100k
otoolejp
Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:28 am
#4
Wow, Your servers economy must be bad, or mine is good. As for most of that stuff, don't really know.
As for grenades, I know that on my server 40k is high for good C12's. I buy out a couple different vendors that sell grenades that are as good as those listed with a 2.6 speed, and they are 25k a crate of 25.
Gabriele
Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:29 am
#5
otoolejp wrote:
Wow, Your servers economy must be bad, or mine is good. As for most of that stuff, don't really know.
As for grenades, I know that on my server 40k is high for good C12's. I buy out a couple different vendors that sell grenades that are as good as those listed with a 2.6 speed, and they are 25k a crate of 25.
Eclipse is what I believe the single most overpriced server in all of SWG. 128-174 acklay bones can go for about 2 mil. Grenades are tough to come by with the amount of fs grinders out there as well. Several of our WS have left.
Gabriele
Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:33 am
#6
Hurlobacca wrote:
I agree with Ybagi, you really need to look at the weapons themselves and evaluate their desirability in order to determine what they should sellfor. You also don't include information on the range of your weapons. Rancor teeth will increase the max damage at the expense of lower min dmg, speed, and range and most smiths never use them unless they are very good exceptional or legendary teeth. Only then might the downside of teeth be overcome by the added damage. That uber geo hammer is pretty nice but no way is it worth over 1 million creds. Conversely, the lower end geo hammers are nice enough to ask more for. Slice them up and you might get a few that are worth several hundredK each.
Shop the competition, see what they are offering and how you stack up and take your cue from what others are doing. I appreciate the fact that you are trying to carve out a niche but you've got to offer things people want at prices that are attractive to them. As for offering sliced weapons, it's a great way to overcome small gaps in your weapons stats, at least the best of the bunch will be comparable and desirable. Slicing is a numbers game. Slice a half dozen weapons and anything can happen. Slice 100 weapons, and you'll start to see fairly predictable results.
Message Edited by Hurlobacca on 12-02-2004 03:44 AM
I've been getting these weapons sliced and the geo components have been relatively cheep so its not so much an issue for me to lower the prices. I'm just trying to figure their value. A 500-150 acklay hammer goes for around 750k to 1m so I figured that the geo hammer would be worth around 1m given the fact that its stats are better than had I used acklay bone. Better range and etc...
Yes I should include the other stats as well but I thought that would be a bit much to include on the post and well lots of typing work too. Thanks for helping all. I actually want to provide better weapons cheaper than the other ws in eclipse since our economy is so f'd up with all the rich boys that left, decrease on mission payouts, and increase in n00bs.
Its rough in our server and I want to make it better. Thats why I decided to grind out WS and embrace it with luvin.
Hurlobacca
Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:42 pm
#7
I agree with Ybagi, you really need to look at the weapons themselves and evaluate their desirability in order to determine what they should sellfor. You also don't include information on the range of your weapons. Rancor teeth will increase the max damage at the expense of lower min dmg, speed, and range and most smiths never use them unless they are very good exceptional or legendary teeth. Only then might the downside of teeth be overcome by the added damage. That uber geo hammer is pretty nice but no way is it worth over 1 million creds. Conversely, the lower end geo hammers are nice enough to ask more for. Slice them up and you might get a few that are worth several hundredK each.
Shop the competition, see what they are offering and how you stack up and take your cue from what others are doing. I appreciate the fact that you are trying to carve out a niche but you've got to offer things people want at prices that are attractive to them. As for offering sliced weapons, it's a great way to overcome small gaps in your weapons stats, at least the best of the bunch will be comparable and desirable. Slicing is a numbers game. Slice a half dozen weapons and anything can happen. Slice 100 weapons, and you'll start to see fairly predictable results.
Message Edited by Hurlobacca on 12-02-2004 03:44 AM
OrionSeven
Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:57 am
#8
personally....
2hCurved Sword = 2.5 68-249. 1k credits. I can do insane runs of these, and they only cost about 25 credits to make.
I never use Rancor loot in them because the HAM costs outweigh the 20 pts of damage.
I think your prices are beyond high. But I play on Wanderhome, and stuff is usually a lot cheaper there.
CorenLanra
Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:12 am
#9
Rancor loot is essentially junk and not worth using _unless_ the tooth is 100+ damage. Then usually the weapon is only good for a speed capped master. Still the ranges suck and you are lucky to get a +range 2h curved from a rancor tooth sometimes.
ofim
Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:31 am
#10
I have to agree with Coren, unless the teeth you're using are atleast 100 damage it isn't worth it.
I've made 367max unsliced 2h curved with rancor teeth using 137max teeth
as for grenades they cost alot more than people think to manufacture, even people that make grenades sometimes don't know what they really cost to make. I personaly wont make factory runs of grenades.
Samaw
Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:59 pm
#11
your price on the imperial Detonators is way off. If you figure your cost of making them at 20 cpu then the cost of making 130,500 cr. I sell mine everyday for a crate of 25 at 261k. and cant keep them in stock thanks the nerf on the speed of the factories
grifta
Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:09 am
#12
Have to agree with the 3 chilastra ws. Also just invest all you can into resources, ask some ws around for 10-20k stacks here and there and just build up a nice stock pile of the top 3-5 resources. Once you do that keep your eye on current shifts, and start saving for WS points.
Samaw
Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:10 am
#13
OrionSeven wrote:
personally....
2hCurved Sword = 2.5 68-249. 1k credits. I can do insane runs of these, and they only cost about 25 credits to make.
I never use Rancor loot in them because the HAM costs outweigh the 20 pts of damage.
I think your prices are beyond high. But I play on Wanderhome, and stuff is usually a lot cheaper there.
if the max damage of the teeth is over 100 then they are worth doing
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