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Thread: It's a curse post your speed/damage slice ratios on Krayt T21s
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CrazyGreggy
Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:11 pm
#1
I know you'll make very few of them, but lately with all the krayt hunting a few sets of 11 tissues have passed my way.
I think that since becoming a WS I've made around 15 of these suckers, currently running at 12:3 speed/damage
Are they cursed? Is there some weighting in the averages? I'll ask in the Smuggler board as well, although they may not want to answer for fear of being blamed for fumble-fingered slicing
(j/k)
I think that since becoming a WS I've made around 15 of these suckers, currently running at 12:3 speed/damage
Are they cursed? Is there some weighting in the averages? I'll ask in the Smuggler board as well, although they may not want to answer for fear of being blamed for fumble-fingered slicing
(j/k)
CrashNgoBoom
Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:04 pm
#2
It seems all enhanced weapons are cursed with speed slices. I've made 8 weapons with tissue that should have had the (exceptional) tag on it but did for some reason and all 8 of them got speeds.
BeigeKnight
Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:11 pm
#3
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=110479
All of your questions about the slicing gods can be answered here...
CrashNgoBoom
Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:44 am
#4
We know it's random, but some times you can tell the Slice Gods are watching.
Mysteryman1106
Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:28 am
#6
CrashNgoBoom wrote:It seems all enhanced weapons are cursed with speed slices. I've made 8 weapons with tissue that should have had the (exceptional) tag on it but did for some reason and all 8 of them got speeds.
Reminds me of the time my buddy bought four suits of stun compo and asked me to slice.
EVERY PEICE got an encumberance slice...
I simply could not believe that streak...
zazo
Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:52 am
#7
I find that if you give the smuggler a healthy bribe up front it allows him to focus more and gain the slice you want.
eh to quote a friend "Absolutly nothing effects slicing"
I have gotten numberous 35% dmg slices on rare krayted items, t-21's, DE-10s, etc. and I have also gotten as many crap slices on the same uber equipment. 20% spd for example on my own DE-10.
You have to think of two things really. First the weapon or armor is not worse than it was it is always better. If you purchase something with the intent on getting a specific slice you will almost always lose. This is a gamble and a risk you take. Second, try to make a weapon (in your case) or armor such that either slice would be benificial. for example the DE-10 mentioned above had a spd of 4.0 and high dmg so dropping it to 3.2 spd wasn't all that bad. The higher the numbers to start the more effective the slice.
and slicing is and always has been completely random there are no formulas, no rituals, no quality of componets or items that effect it. Some days all my slices are good, some days they are all bad but over time they all average out.
Stooric
Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:54 pm
#8
a speed slice on most pistols is worthless because most pistoleers/bh'ers are speed capped even w/ 4-6.0 speed weapons
dlc3007
Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:05 pm
#9
Hate to say it, but I haven't noticed any 'curse' in my slices. In fact, I'm currently using a 30%+ damage sliced Krayt T-21. I'm not saying that you didn't have a run of consistant slices, but random chance will do strange things sometimes.
Stooric
Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:12 pm
#10
zazo wrote:
Stooric wrote:
a speed slice on most pistols is worthless because most pistoleers/bh'ers are speed capped even w/ 4-6.0 speed weapons
most pistoleer/anything else is not speed capped at that rate. As for worthless, I ask only was the gun not faster than before?
The mind set for slicing needs to change. As I mentioned it is a gamble, if you do not think the weapon or armor you are buying unsliced is worth it as is then you shouldn't buy it. Far too many people buy things with the thought that a certain slice will give them xx.
ummm using this website http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.php i am currently (Pistoleer 0043, BH 0040) speedcapped for any pistol at ANY speed ... 2.0 speed ... up to 99999 speed ... i was a 0002 pistoleer w/ 0040 BH and master marksman and i had 94 (possibly 96, not positive) pistol speed ... it caps at 100 meaning that if you have BH w/ that little bit of pistoleer you are basically capped at all specials 1.0
w/ that 94 speed i was speedcapped for all pistols up toaround 4.3(which is most pistols unsliced excluding de-10) ... not trying to be an ass ... just stating things ive experienced : )
CrashNgoBoom
Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:27 pm
#11
Stooric wrote:
zazo wrote:
Stooric wrote:
a speed slice on most pistols is worthless because most pistoleers/bh'ers are speed capped even w/ 4-6.0 speed weapons
most pistoleer/anything else is not speed capped at that rate. As for worthless, I ask only was the gun not faster than before?
The mind set for slicing needs to change. As I mentioned it is a gamble, if you do not think the weapon or armor you are buying unsliced is worth it as is then you shouldn't buy it. Far too many people buy things with the thought that a certain slice will give them xx.
ummm using this website http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.php i am currently (Pistoleer 0043, BH 0040) speedcapped for any pistol at ANY speed ... 2.0 speed ... up to 99999 speed ... i was a 0002 pistoleer w/ 0040 BH and master marksman and i had 94 (possibly 96, not positive) pistol speed ... it caps at 100 meaning that if you have BH w/ that little bit of pistoleer you are basically capped at all specials 1.0
w/ that 94 speed i was speedcapped for all pistols up toaround 4.3(which is most pistols unsliced excluding de-10) ... not trying to be an ass ... just stating things ive experienced : )
This is true. Most people who are willing to invest in an enhanced weapon are going to be speed capped. Especially some weapons like the DE-10 which is certed at a master box or the T21 which is going to be eniterly too slow even with a speed slice until master(which in the case of riflemen is an instant speed difference at master). Smugglers keep saying that no matter what, the weapon is better then it was before. I know smuggler have absolutly no control over what the slice turns out to be and it's not their fault. However, that mentality of it "being better" only works if people run around with unsliced weapons. The fact is "bad sliced" do "ruin" the weapon because once a weapon has one, it will never, ever, be able to get a "good" slice where as an unsliced weapon sill has that chance. I have a "Speed Slice" vendor, a "Damage Slice" vendor, and an "Unsliced" vendor in my shop. The Damage slice vendor always get's almost all my customers, then when it's about picked over, people switch to the unsliced vendor for that hope of getting a good slice. I usually have to end up destroying all but the fastest of my weapons on the speed sliced vendor to make room for restocks.
zazo
Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:21 am
#12
Stooric wrote:
a speed slice on most pistols is worthless because most pistoleers/bh'ers are speed capped even w/ 4-6.0 speed weapons
most pistoleer/anything else is not speed capped at that rate. As for worthless, I ask only was the gun not faster than before?
The mind set for slicing needs to change. As I mentioned it is a gamble, if you do not think the weapon or armor you are buying unsliced is worth it as is then you shouldn't buy it. Far too many people buy things with the thought that a certain slice will give them xx.
haristyles
Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:25 am
#13
Not a T-21 but 3 snazzy Laser Rifles all with formfitting stocks got speed slices. Man they look cool with stocks on them.
Man they look cool with stocks on them.I quit out right after that and had to settle down.
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