Weaponsmith Archive

I've heard varied reports on this. I know then can negatively affect specials costs. Do you use them? What are your impressions?

Assuming you actually mean stocks and scopes ...

With the right quality resources you can experiment regular scopes down to +1 HAM and Advanced +2. It's possible to get them down to 0 HAM, but they always add 1 when attached to the weapon.

If you can get the scopes to this level, you should be using them all the time on rifles / carbines - and probably most pistols. I use regular scopes on all pistols, advanced on all rifles.

As for stocks - the opinions vary. As a master rifleman, i like to have a stocked weapon for the maximum damage - but the trade off is a large HAM increase.

As a weaponsmith - i only add stocks to a couple of weapons - T21, Laser Rifle / Carbine and i clearly mark them on the vendor. They sell at a steady rate. I wouldn't do a large run with them though. They slow down the weapon and add marginal damage for the HAM's in most cases.

I'd only use a gun with a stock if I was going to use it for one-shotting mobs and the gun couldn't do so without the stock.

Rather a shame, really. Stocks could stand to be a lot more useful.

I actually have two T21's that are stocked - both advanced models. The HAM costs are insane, but as i'm always pumped on a musicians buff or a Muon, i can live with the extra drain. Getting the extra 45 damage can really mean the difference in some shootouts.

Of course, the T21 looks totally lame without the stock - have you seen the animation ? /shudder

Thanks folks....helpful info. Yes - I did mean scopes

I use a stock in EVERY gun i can unless the person asks me not to, its only .2 more speed, does 32 more min/max damage, and only adds about 20 to HAM, take off your comp helmet i say

I use scopes all the time ( when i feel like it ) but for use on my personal guns cause i like the look now i have to hand make them for the look but most my guns are Krayt anyhow cuase i like killin those things

me

Hand made scopes show up on the final weapon?

Seems like it's only on some guns, but yeah, the scope/stock/barrel you use will actually show up in the final product if it was handcrafted. Didn't know it wasn't the case for factory guns, but now that I think about it, it sounds likely, since I don't remember ever pulling a gun out of a crate and seeing a scope on it.

Heavy acid riflesand rep blasters scream for scopes. The hvy acids I just use a max to-hit/dam formula for, since most commandos want them for the vuls vs pets and PVE, and can't afford to miss often, the adv scopes add +32 or so to ideal range, making it, +26 at 32m instead of -14 or something. That is a huge difference.

The small scopes experimented down to -ham, acc add some to a weapon that starts at -47 to-hit, alot of people like having that be in the 20's, and i usually wind up with a mix of ham and acc that brings to hit to -27 and gives ham of about 22/52/22, not a real biggie for pistols and their negligble ham mods.

Stock/scope/barrel will only appear if:

1) gun was hand-crafted

2) stock/scope/barrel were removed from crate (or hand-crafted) beforedoubleclicking themin crafting tool

3) gun model is compatible with stock/scope/barrel (DL44 shows all customizations, scout blaster shows none, some carbines show scopes but not barrels or stocks)

I use stocks on request from the buyer, and try to keep both stock and non-stock variants of popular weapons on the vendor. I find that a stocked gun is a good situation for a non-advanced barrel, which can help to offset some of the speed hit at little cost to damage, especially for high-damage guns like LLC's and flamers. I only put scopes in on request though.

-Toobaumek, Master Weaponsmith

Vendor in Cyn's Weapons, -2000 -3710 on Tatooine, 700m outside Bestine on the Bria server