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Thread: Adv Weapon Stocks???????????????????????????

Whrlwnd13
Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:00 pm
#1


Hey folks I need some advice on what i'm doing wrong when crafting stocks.


I can't seem get even close to the same or better speed than my previous stocks that were made about a month ago.


the stats on those are 0.029 speed -13 ac


I'm using 804SR LS Alum and 696SR Wood


most attempts come out about 0.3 speed and -14 ac. (had one that was .048 -12ac)


I've been getting about the same number of amazings (about 6% worth). and all succeses are great/amazing


I have a WS buff. +12 experimentation, +25assy +20FS Exp, +5FS Assy, In a research center using bespin and cake.


I know in the old days you had to throw a bunch of points into one line to get the stocks to come out right but haven't had to do that post CU.


any suggestions??

Message Edited by Whrlwnd13 on 09-06-2005 06:24 AM



Xyrek Lok
Master Weaponsmith
12pt WS, +20 FS Experimentation
Crafting High Quality Weapons Since 03/2004

WP 1190 -3620 1km NE of Coronet at the Omega Force Guildhall

- I supported keeping & balancing the old combat system SOE didn't care and gave us the WoW/EQ2 clone anyway
Whrlwnd13
Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:23 pm
#2



I dont get it... I just tried again and with awesome results i still get a slow stock.


Great on Assembly 29%... 1.754 spd -7ac


throw 4 points into AC (been doing three previously and getting -12ac).


Amazing 62% -15ac (thats 5% amazings since it would have been only 57% with great success).


Thow 3 points into speed...


Amazing 53%.. 1.150 spd (thats 3% amazings since it would have been only 50% with great success)


Throw in 3 more points to speed....


Amazing 78%... 0.546 spd (thats 4% amazings, since it would have been 74% with great sucesses)


Throw the last two points into speed....


Amazing 94%...0.144 spd (thats 2% amazings, since it would have been 92% with great sucesses)


So what the hell is going on.. all amazing sucesses on experimentation (totalling 9% on speed) and i still can't even get close to 0 speed.


/sign perplexed weaponsmith

Message Edited by Whrlwnd13 on 09-06-2005 07:43 AM



Xyrek Lok
Master Weaponsmith
12pt WS, +20 FS Experimentation
Crafting High Quality Weapons Since 03/2004

WP 1190 -3620 1km NE of Coronet at the Omega Force Guildhall

- I supported keeping & balancing the old combat system SOE didn't care and gave us the WoW/EQ2 clone anyway
Whrlwnd13
Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:51 am
#3

any suggestions?



Xyrek Lok
Master Weaponsmith
12pt WS, +20 FS Experimentation
Crafting High Quality Weapons Since 03/2004

WP 1190 -3620 1km NE of Coronet at the Omega Force Guildhall

- I supported keeping & balancing the old combat system SOE didn't care and gave us the WoW/EQ2 clone anyway
Whrlwnd13
Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:19 am
#4

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Xyrek Lok
Master Weaponsmith
12pt WS, +20 FS Experimentation
Crafting High Quality Weapons Since 03/2004

WP 1190 -3620 1km NE of Coronet at the Omega Force Guildhall

- I supported keeping & balancing the old combat system SOE didn't care and gave us the WoW/EQ2 clone anyway
Summerflame
Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:23 am
#5

Well I cant really help you atm as I need to go to uni in 5 mins, but when I get home ill try making some stok on my own to see what I come up with.

only thing I can think of is that you may have had a critical success, but I dont think anyone has confirmed that these exists post CU.


Anyway, Ill check when I get home to see what I can come up with as a comparison



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Whrlwnd13
Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:41 am
#6

Thanks Summer I appreciate your checking what kind of numbers you can come up with. I doubt there was a crit sucess I've never had one but i'd think that the numbers would be better if that'd happened.


It just doesn't make sense to me why i can't get the speed down (especially with all those amazings).


Next attempt i'm going to put everything into speed and see exactlyhow fast i can get the stock with as many points as it takes to max out the line.






Xyrek Lok
Master Weaponsmith
12pt WS, +20 FS Experimentation
Crafting High Quality Weapons Since 03/2004

WP 1190 -3620 1km NE of Coronet at the Omega Force Guildhall

- I supported keeping & balancing the old combat system SOE didn't care and gave us the WoW/EQ2 clone anyway
PaladinX333
Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:13 am
#7

The SR on your wood is good (700 being the max i believe) and the SR on your linksteel is a tad low (830 is the max... not as sure on this one).


With the new buffs my Adv stocks came out as 0.001 speed and -13 SAC. The SR on my wood is 684 and the SR on my linksteel is 827.


I also made some -15 SAC stocks with (I think) 0.139 speed.


Maceey
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:14 am
#8

I know that the schematic sees the cap for wood at 1000 instead of 700. I have 683 wood and 825 alu. But i allways max speed with amazings and then the rest in sac I made a new bunch let me check what i made when eclipse finally gets up....




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Summerflame
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:58 am
#9

Using


684 SR Wood


826 SR Alu


Im Reaching 0.0 Speed -12 (but I got a great succes on the sacc not an amazing so it should go higher )





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Geminus
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:15 am
#10

I'm finding people are prefering that you max out theSAC first because of speed slices, and SAC powerups make low SAC weapons virtually spammable. But I also have noticed the high speed on assembly...








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PaladinX333
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:40 pm
#11






Maceey wrote:
I know that the schematic sees the cap for wood at 1000 instead of 700. I have 683 wood and 825 alu. But i allways max speed with amazings and then the rest in sac I made a new bunch let me check what i made when eclipse finally gets up....






No it doesn't. I have some 700 SR corellian deciduous wood and it sees it as 100%. Most of the schems work like this since the second crafting change post CU. The resource caps are now taken into account by the schem.


The 2% resource buff makes my 700 SR wood kinda unneeded since I can get the same results with my 684 SRwood now.


QJP
Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:27 am
#12

my post CU stocks tend to come out as -12 SAC and 0.023 speed




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Maceey
Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:58 pm
#13






PaladinX333 wrote:





Maceey wrote:
I know that the schematic sees the cap for wood at 1000 instead of 700. I have 683 wood and 825 alu. But i allways max speed with amazings and then the rest in sac I made a new bunch let me check what i made when eclipse finally gets up....






No it doesn't. I have some 700 SR corellian deciduous wood and it sees it as 100%. Most of the schems work like this since the second crafting change post CU. The resource caps are now taken into account by the schem.


The 2% resource buff makes my 700 SR wood kinda unneeded since I can get the same results with my 684 SRwood now.








Well yes it says 100% but the graphic isn't corrected yet that still leaves a big black part


And i got to -12 with 0.00 speed something






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