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Thread: Krayt Tissue hindering weapons? 12pt test shows results. DEV please comment.

Pohacca
Sun May 01, 2005 3:19 pm
#1

I this test just now:


Stats on a Non-Krayt High Cap Scatter:


Damage range: 318-722

Speed: 1.73

Estimated DPS: 300.58


Stats on a Base Krayt High Cap Scatter:


Damage range: 268-703

Speed: 1.73

Estimated DPS: 280.35


The handlers for both weapons were experimented with 8 pts in speed and 4 in damage. Both pistols were experimented with 8 pts in speed and 4 in damage. I got great and amazing results across the board and niether weapon is sliced.


Needless to say, I hope this is going to be fixed soon. I did the test in the first place because a 164 max Krayt weapon came out way worse than a base one.


I took screenies too but imagedump says they are too big. I'll try figuing out how to post them here.



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Night4554
Sun May 01, 2005 3:22 pm
#2

What are "base" tissues? 30 -.3? Cause all the tissues looted since the CU have been much much over that.

Maybe it detects the presence of a Krayt Tissue and goes "oh I Nedd to make this sucky cause the tissue will compensate and make it overpowered!!"? Some speculation



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Ragnaat
Sun May 01, 2005 3:28 pm
#3


Night4554 wrote:
What are "base" tissues? 30 -.3? Cause all the tissues looted since the CU have been much much over that.

I wouldn't go that far...

I've looted tissues with damage as low as 50 and speed as low as -0.3 with my "worst" being 57/-0.33s

certainly better... but not the every tissue over 100damage that soem reports are making things sound

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Vade_WS
Sun May 01, 2005 3:43 pm
#4



Pohacca wrote:
I did the test in the first place because a 164 max Krayt weapon came out way worse than a base one.
I took screenies too but imagedump says they are too big. I'll try figuing out how to post them here.





I'm glad it isn't just me. I had some really good krayt'd ABPHs that I used to make a plasma FT and the stats were horrible on the assembled weapon. The stat's shouldn't be worse when we use better components!




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Jpshaff01
Sun May 01, 2005 3:44 pm
#5

So you guys suggest not crafting any krayt weapons right now.




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Vade_WS
Sun May 01, 2005 3:48 pm
#6

Don't waste good tissues.




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Jpshaff01
Sun May 01, 2005 4:05 pm
#7

Ok lol, i really wanna use my good tissues to see if i can beat my converted pistols.




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Night4554
Sun May 01, 2005 4:37 pm
#8



Ragnaat wrote:

Night4554 wrote:
What are "base" tissues? 30 -.3? Cause all the tissues looted since the CU have been much much over that.

I wouldn't go that far...

I've looted tissues with damage as low as 50 and speed as low as -0.3 with my "worst" being 57/-0.33s

certainly better... but not the every tissue over 100damage that soem reports are making things sound

Message Edited by Ragnaat on 05-01-2005 06:28 PM





Okay, fair enough - I figured after killing juvies and canyons for 3 hours and my lowest being 88 that it was odd hehe.



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StrandedonEarth
Sun May 01, 2005 5:54 pm
#9

Well, the speed cap on Hi-Cap Scatters is 1.73, so it's quite possible you wasted points on speed that weren't doing anything. Sorry, I don't have my stats handy, but I'm pretty sure my hi-cap scatters were breaking 300dps. I'll dbl-check later tonight, when I'm at home. But it is odd that your krayt dmg numbers are lower.

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Pohacca
Sun May 01, 2005 7:14 pm
#10








Night4554 wrote:
What are "base" tissues? 30 -.3? Cause all the tissues looted since the CU have been much much over that.




I used a max 30 for my test as I have 500 saved up. Any max is good by me as it's higher than base.


I also made one with 164 max tissues that turned out worse than the two posted above.


Something is definatly wrong with the tissue right now. Hopefully we can get this fixed.






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EVILxWARLOCK
Sun May 01, 2005 7:34 pm
#11

Not sure but tissues may be bugged. First day CU went live got some wicked tissues. 10 of 181 dam and 6 of 178 dam. Since the first day have not seen any that high. Could just be luck.



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Pohacca
Sun May 01, 2005 7:55 pm
#12






StrandedonEarth wrote:

Well, the speed cap on Hi-Cap Scatters is 1.73, so it's quite possible you wasted points on speed that weren't doing anything. Sorry, I don't have my stats handy, but I'm pretty sure my hi-cap scatters were breaking 300dps. I'll dbl-check later tonight, when I'm at home. But it is odd that your krayt dmg numbers are lower.

Message Edited by StrandedonEarth on 05-01-200505:56 PM






This explains my speed. I know speed determines DPS so I wanted to make sure to have the lowest speed possible. I thought I would get a message telling me I had hit the cap the way Wound does.


Damage is definatly borked then. Stranded, if you could also test this and post your results that would be awesome.






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Pohacca
Sun May 01, 2005 7:57 pm
#13

Also, a little off subject, does anyone know what the new base tissue is?


I'm going to test base (Pre CU) Gorax bones against this as well. I'll post here.





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