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Thread: Krayt Tissue hindering weapons? 12pt test shows results. DEV please comment.

blacknebula
Sun May 01, 2005 8:24 pm
#14

My friend is a 12pt weaponsmith and he made some scatters with 141 damage krayt tissues and the average max damage on each was about 900 and got to 1000 sliced. ARe you saying it should be better?



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Sun May 01, 2005 9:20 pm
#15


hmmmm i've only made one krayt weapon.


A dl44 xt (non-krayt) and a krayted one. the krayted one came out superior although this was before they change the component reqs


used post-CU tissue now I am scared to use any in anything else after reading this...well maybe I'll do one experiment





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Sun May 01, 2005 9:21 pm
#16






Anistasio wrote:
yep..i used 120 damage tissues in advanced scatter it came out to 30 points higher than a non krayt. Anythingaround 50 damage came out about like what the pre -cu stuff non-krayt transfered to,and 40 damage tissuesand under is same as a non-krayt post CU. plus all crates of krayt handlers you had before CU got transfered into 55 dam no matter what they were before. im out a few bucks. and slicing is horrible. still its more fun than playing my jedi now.





hmmmm, i'm a grab a couple low tissues and try this



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XobNoics
Sun May 01, 2005 9:36 pm
#17


Damage: 346-811

Speed: 1.73

Accuracy Bonus: 12

Wound: 31.05%

Estimated Base DPS: 334.10

Action Cost: 117


Made with 51 damage@ -1.014 speed tissues.


We cannot put all ourexperiment pointsinto damage then the rest into speed. I still haven't figured out how to optimize DPS without "testing" a few Krayted ABPH's. Took me 3 tries withthe handlersto get the best DPS because as the tissue/damage speed changes we'll have to devote a certain number of points in damage/speed while experimenting. I've noticed that I can't assume 6/6 pointsinto damage/speed, 7/5 into damage speed, or 5/7 into damage speed as how many points you put in will depend on the tissues' stats.


My base scatter statsare

Damage: 375-777

Speed: 1.86

Accuracy Bonus: 12

Wound: 31.05%

Estimated Base DPS: 309.33

Action Cost: 117

Message Edited by XobNoics on 05-01-2005 09:43 PM



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XobNoics
Sun May 01, 2005 9:55 pm
#18

Damage: 335--874

Speed: 1.73

Base DPS: 349.13


Tissues used

Damage: 125

Speed: -0.74



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XobNoics
Sun May 01, 2005 10:16 pm
#19



Damage: 360-887

Speed: 1.77

Base DPS: 351.25


Same tissues but I put different points into different lines.

Message Edited by XobNoics on 05-01-2005 10:17 PM



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Pohacca
Sun May 01, 2005 10:29 pm
#20

Gorax Weapon results:


Did this on the Intimidator Pistol:



Non Gorax Shard:


Damage Range: 306-710


Speed: 1.73


Est DPS: 293.64



With Shard:


Damage Range: 318-753


Speed: 1.73


Est DPS: 309.25



Both weapons had great results across the board.







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Pohacca
Sun May 01, 2005 10:30 pm
#21






XobNoics wrote:



Damage: 360-887

Speed: 1.77

Base DPS: 351.25


Same tissues but I put different points into different lines.

Message Edited by XobNoics on 05-01-200510:17 PM






Hmmm. When did you make this weapon? I made a 357 DPS HC Scatter yesterday. Today I can't get those result no matter how what tissue I use.






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XobNoics
Sun May 01, 2005 10:34 pm
#22






Pohacca wrote:




Hmmm. When did you make this weapon? I made a 357 DPS HC Scatter yesterday. Today I can't get those result no matter how what tissue I use.







Just right now. All post-CU components.



Are you putting all exp points into damage then the rest into speed? If so, that might not lead to the best DPS. I got 309 DPS for my Intimidator Pistol without a shard.



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Pohacca
Mon May 02, 2005 1:50 am
#23







laodamas wrote:
I was crafting a DL-44 XT with some 163 tissue. On the second one got damage to 958 but when I went to finish the last crafting step I got the message I had exceeded the max damage cap of 948. It was at the last step so I had no warning to switch to speed. On the second one I made I experimented damage up to 946 max then had 5 points to put in speed. After a magical -7% damage slice(which actually increased the DPS) my pistoleer/bh has a 555 modified dps DL-44 XT.






Nice gun right here. You made this tonight?





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laodamas
Mon May 02, 2005 4:05 am
#24

Made it Sunday afternoon. Then looted some 185 tissue last night. Will make some guns from those tomorrow. Only problem with the CU guns are the action cost. I max DPS but end up with guns in the 112-118 action cost range.



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Pohacca
Mon May 02, 2005 8:14 am
#25

Whatever it was, it's fixed this morning. Those 164 tissue made a 375 edps High Capacity Scatter this morning.



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Pohacca
Mon May 02, 2005 8:16 am
#26

Though, I think there may be a problem with speed carrying over from the components. My handlers were -2.47 speed and my barrel was -2.0. The inital crafted weapon was 1.93 speed. You would think it would already be at the 1.73 speed with -4.47 from the components.


I'm going to do some testing on this tonight. I'll post here.





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