Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: Petition To Remove Uber Loot Weapons. *IMPORTANT*

EEMAN
Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:52 pm
#79

well DTox, heres an example of a melee item, maybe it will hit closer to home. Being a melee weaponsmith and all...


http://www.djedix.com/ax.gif



What really chaps my ass is that they keep nerfing the weapons we craft because they are overpowered. WT-F is this then???? UNDERPOWERED?




Omosack
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EEMAN
Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:54 pm
#80

oh, on chilastra one almost that good just dropped of a Krayt. AHEM! i thought they said high level NPC????? since when is a krayt a high level npc????



Omosack
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Better Homes and Guns - in the Chilastra Galaxy

- It's time the devs end the bitter fighting by giving the community a Non Jedi server. We have a few servers with TINY populations that could be changed to this ruleset. I support this idea because it punishes noone. - You can support it too. Click Here!
Soar
Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:51 pm
#81

Darkcipher, thanks for keeping the Devs informed with this one. Right now I'm at the point where I'd be happy to see any one of the suggestions put forth implimented. I think when the PvP clases start feeling the sting the Devs will actually sit up and take more notice.

Yesterday I saw my second uber weapon in game. I'm only one player and am not even actively looking for these things.
Kbarsoom
Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:45 pm
#82

First off I'm not a Weaponsmith, I'm a Commando. That being said I want to say that I support the idea of the PC crafter being able to make the best weapons.


I do like the idea of there being 'interesting" weapons that drop... you know, the weapons with mind poison and what-not. These are items that have LIMITED use, the poison has a set number of uses and goes away, never to be recharged. Give the combat types INTERESTING loot and we'll be happy, least I will.


I also think that instead of these "uber" weapons dropping, there should be schematic drops with limited runs, or quests to unlock additional schematics for you guys. Personally I'm waiting for the RIS Armor quest to go Live so I can help my guild Armorsmith build the stuff, and if they told me there was a quest to build a better weapon I'd be all over it.


So, good luck guys. I enjoy dealing with my Weaponsmith, seeing what he can do, and using his weapons. I don't want him, or any other crafter, eclipsed by some campable mob.....




Kail Barsoom
"Dyins the easy part, we just gotta stay alive long enough to get paid."
Soar
Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:10 am
#83

/bump
Trystan1969
Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:54 pm
#84

You people are going a bit overboard and don't bring a few issues to mind.


First, it's the player-crafted armor and weapons that are used to get this "uber drops". Without the weaponsmiths, these people would never be able to kill the mob to get that weapon in the first place.


Secondly, in my opinion, there should always be 2 sources to go to. Another player shouldn't be the only way to get an item. You want a certain resource, you can go get it yourself. Why should the combat types rely solely on player crafted goods when the crafters don't?


Third, I managed to pull 3 lances off of the nightsisters in a few hours. They all had mind poison on them. But, the stats sucked as did the condition. I think the best one was about half of what a crafter can make and the condition was 300/730. Even if someone did decide to use that (i'm not a pikeman), it would get very little use before it broke.


Think about other people for a change rather than yourselfs and stop wanting to be the only source of something. Many other professions don't have a monopoly on their area, why should you?

AmgineEX
Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:11 pm
#85

Most uber loot weapons are used in pvp as people PVE with vendor bought ones. How many "uber loot" weapons do you know of that exists in your server and collides with the sales of regular weapons? With weapon decay, no matter how "uber" a weapon is, it'll rot sooner or later. This topic isn't *IMPORTANT* like you stated in the subject, it's a crappy post interjected by personal biases and assumptions. You'd rather have everyone have the same weapons minus one or two damage and 0.1 or 0.2 speed and let the slicers do the rest.


The idea of "uber loot" weapons is not a bad idea, on the contrary, it spices the game up. Let me reiterate. Most people use WS made weapons for PVE which occurs far more than PVP.


Soar wrote: The side effect for crafters and the economy is disasterous. Even if the items are extremely rare it makes no difference. What it does is knock crafted items down to sub-standard. For online games "standard" does not mean average quality, it means "top shelf". Any thing that a player aquires or uses on the way to obtaining top shelf, it is just a temporary sub-standard item. With the introduction of these weapons the entire inventory of the WS is now in this category.


I'll agree that i use the best weapons and i buy only THE BEST weapons and I'm the guy that will buy 50 weapons to get one good slice (only because i love PVP). However, most players DO NOT have the income/support to even purchase more than a handful of regular WS made weapons, so you can forget about them bidding millions of credits on an extraordinary or legendary weapon. Hell, most players can't even afford to shell out a million credits for a piece of decent krayt weaponry. The absurb idea that people will stop buying WS weapons and trade for "uber loot" weapons will never happen. Get off the spice.


I will even give a RL example of how your poorly hypothesised postulate is false. Most people buy the best car for their social class. From what you're stating, you think that because Rolls Royce rolls out less than 500 automobiles per year at insanely high prices, people would stop buying vehicles from Toyota/Honda/Ford etc. Everyone and their dog knows that's not the way things work. The supply of the :uber loot" weapons is FAR less than the demand for them. So Soar, go play a combat class with only "uber loot" weapons. I'd like to see how far you can get before you run out of money trying to buy new ones because all the old ones decayed to **edit** and failed their repairs.





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OverClock
Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:11 pm
#86

Im not sure what the latest patches have changed but if the drop rate of Legendary weapons (those really uber ones) remains the same as it was then it will not hurt anyone. Few weapons dropped and the weaponsmiths from all the servers are on their toes? Come on! Theres a very good chance noone from your customer base will ever even meet a person whos actually seen a weapon like that.


Some however want those. They want them so bad they will invest insane amounths on combat equipment so they can farm the spots 24/7. So in the end its a win/win situation.




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Durakin
Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:13 pm
#87

Please keep rare loot, it gives players a reason to kill high level things! Look at EverQuest, it probaly was/is/will be the most popular MMORPG, what is the main purpose of that game, to get rare items, that are not craftable.


Credits are too easy to get, leave in rare 'uber loot weapons' this way not everyone and their sister has Joe Smoe's Version 1.1 Scatter Pistol.


Variety is good!


Or what would help all proffs (instead of getting rid of these and dissapointing 8+ combat proffession to satisfy 1 crafting proffession) Is make these special drops no-drop like the limited edition sun glasses this way weaponsmiths wont get mad(or as mad)about this.


Somethings money cant buy, for everything else there is the Galatic Bank System!


Soar
Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:57 pm
#88

OMG OMG OMG!

Who bumped this thread?

It has been dead for 2 months. And I think it has been addressed anyways as I only hear about uber weapon components these days.

Please don't post here anymore, this issues has been handled.
Awon
Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:14 am
#89

I think this post is ill thought out because there is about only 20 uber weps out there atm and thats across all the galaxys. So this is nothing like eq where there was hundreds of uber weps on every server. The chances are much lower than 1/50000 its about 1/500000.

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