Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: The CU makes Baby Jesus cry
weaponmaster88
Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:00 pm
#53
JuggernautRM wrote:
Because alot of the system is changing, and people are getting afraid because they read a little piece of information, and they compare how it would be in the current system, which usually doesn't fit right, and they get panicky. You have to get the whole picture and drop what you have learned from before.
yes you are completly right, after playing TS-5 for 2 days, aside from a handful of things that need fixing this system is much better. why does everyone hate it so much? every person i have actually seen on TS has said they like it... its seems everyone of the forums logged in for 3 minutes said they hated it with no real basis then logged off and came and cried on the forums about something they know nothing about.
Va-Mei
Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:32 pm
#54
Lycantha wrote:
Best player crafted CDEF is 63-64 max dam. Frog gives you 62
Not anymore. As a 1001 artisan with poor materials and worse tools, I crafted a CU-cdef with a max damage of 72.
Every number & statistic you thought you knew... Forget it. Everything is changing.
KublaiFett
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:02 pm
#55
For those that missed it, it has only been... what, a day and a half?
ARRRGGGGHHH!!!!!
I
The Mark: "I'm worth more alive!"
Timujin Khan: "Your worth enough dead."
KublaiFett
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:03 pm
#56
For those that missed it, it has only been... what, a day and a half?
ARRRGGGGHHH!!!!!
I feel like I'm sitting here reading my 10th graders whine about
EdOWar
Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:57 pm
#58
SlaserX wrote:
EdOWar wrote:
SlaserX wrote:
Also, what we are seeing on the TC is a first impression with what they have been claiming to be changes that we need. When you go to an interview when you are seeking employment, do you walk in wearing a t-shirt with a pizza stain, shorts that were previously pants, but you ripped the bottom halfs off of them, sandals, and a puka shell necklace? Do you talk to them in your in-crowd's vernacular? Hell no, you put on a suit, you get dressed up nice, you speak in formal language, and you make it at least LOOK like you are a good candidate. The CU is worse than the kid in the t-shirt... it's the retarded kid that cant help but druel all over himself. This is my first impressions of the CU, and first impressions mean ALOT.
As for the interview, it depends on what kind of job you're going for. Do you honestly think a multi-billion dollar conglomerate cares whether or not their janitors know what the company does? Is it going to make a huge difference for them? Not likely
Yeah, and I'm sure if you're interviewing for the janitor position, they don't care if you show up in a suit and talk like you graduated from Harvard, as long as you look presentable. Comparing the CU beta testto an interview is still a poor analogy, no matter how you try to dress it up.
I haven't tried the CU yet, and I'll admit that I'm a bit apprehensive about it myself. But I'm going to reserve judgement until it's at least had a couple of weeks to shape up.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
Message Edited by EdOWar on 04-02-2005 04:59 PM
CTRL_ALT
Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:43 pm
#59
But you get colored icon things in the F buttons! ITS AMAZING!
SlaserX
Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:57 pm
#60
weaponmaster88 wrote:
JuggernautRM wrote:
Because alot of the system is changing, and people are getting afraid because they read a little piece of information, and they compare how it would be in the current system, which usually doesn't fit right, and they get panicky. You have to get the whole picture and drop what you have learned from before.
yes you are completly right, after playing TS-5 for 2 days, aside from a handful of things that need fixing this system is much better. why does everyone hate it so much? every person i have actually seen on TS has said they like it... its seems everyone of the forums logged in for 3 minutes said they hated it with no real basis then logged off and came and cried on the forums about something they know nothing about.
... You're making it sound like I've done no research, spent no time on TC5 and this is simply untrue. It is perfectly normal, and FINE to compare the two because THIS IS THE GAME WE PLAY, and THAT IS WHAT IT WILL BECOME. We are stepping off of the land and into a boat (with a few holes in it). We need a point of reference to understand what the hell is going on, and the game we play right now is that. Your opinions that "this is better" do not match mine of "this is terrible and needs to be thrown away with other horrible game ideas that SOE has thrust upon us in the past". I hate the CU because THIS IS NOT THE GAME I PAID FOR, THE GAME I HAVE SPENT THE PAST YEAR PAYING FOR, THE GAME I LOVE DEARLY. THAT is why I hate it. THAT is what turns me from SWG. THAT is what makes me doubt the future of the game. I played to experience the CU, dont put me in a category that I dont deserve to be in.
Btw, when I play on TC5, I usually see about 5-10 people in major cities crying about how it sucks, and maybe two or three saying "ohh new weapons! shiny!"
SlaserX
Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:40 am
#61
JuggernautRM wrote:
You guys have to stop comparing the pre-CU servers to the CU test server and beyond.
... Why?
EdOWar
Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:29 pm
#62
SlaserX wrote:
... You're making it sound like I've done no research, spent no time on TC5 and this is simply untrue. It is perfectly normal, and FINE to compare the two because THIS IS THE GAME WE PLAY, and THAT IS WHAT IT WILL BECOME. We are stepping off of the land and into a boat (with a few holes in it). We need a point of reference to understand what the hell is going on, and the game we play right now is that. Your opinions that "this is better" do not match mine of "this is terrible and needs to be thrown away with other horrible game ideas that SOE has thrust upon us in the past". I hate the CU because THIS IS NOT THE GAME I PAID FOR, THE GAME I HAVE SPENT THE PAST YEAR PAYING FOR, THE GAME I LOVE DEARLY. THAT is why I hate it. THAT is what turns me from SWG. THAT is what makes me doubt the future of the game. I played to experience the CU, dont put me in a category that I dont deserve to be in.
Well, I know this wasn't directed at me, but I just want to say that I can respect your point of view. From my perspective, if SOE were to completely change the crafting system, so that it was more like WoW's for example, I would feel exactly the same way, whether it were a beta test or not. So I can see where you are coming from.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
SlaserX
Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:43 pm
#63
EdOWar wrote:
SlaserX wrote:
... You're making it sound like I've done no research, spent no time on TC5 and this is simply untrue. It is perfectly normal, and FINE to compare the two because THIS IS THE GAME WE PLAY, and THAT IS WHAT IT WILL BECOME. We are stepping off of the land and into a boat (with a few holes in it). We need a point of reference to understand what the hell is going on, and the game we play right now is that. Your opinions that "this is better" do not match mine of "this is terrible and needs to be thrown away with other horrible game ideas that SOE has thrust upon us in the past". I hate the CU because THIS IS NOT THE GAME I PAID FOR, THE GAME I HAVE SPENT THE PAST YEAR PAYING FOR, THE GAME I LOVE DEARLY. THAT is why I hate it. THAT is what turns me from SWG. THAT is what makes me doubt the future of the game. I played to experience the CU, dont put me in a category that I dont deserve to be in.
Well, I know this wasn't directed at me, but I just want to say that I can respect your point of view. From my perspective, if SOE were to completely change the crafting system, so that it was more like WoW's for example, I would feel exactly the same way, whether it were a beta test or not. So I can see where you are coming from.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
Well thank you for understanding my point of view. You've done something that most people cant, and for that I respect you.
Vendras
Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:54 am
#64
My biggest concern isn't the potential for horrid changes. It's the potential to have this game stay in it's current system...which is an ever on-going BETA game. This game has been, and to a certain extent still is, in BETA form, and it's not looking like it's going to change. If they actually FINISH the damn revamp BEFORE the make it live, unlike what they did at actual launch, then things might be ok. But shooting it in live in order to get it live is just incompotent. I'm already getting myself weened though in case everything does suck. I've canceled one account, and I'm about to do the same to another. So there is half of my accounts gone. It's just a shame that they only way they can seem to do things is to nerf them, not fix them. But let's wait...hell, we've waited this long for SOME kind of improvement...we can wait a bit more to finally bury this game.
Ndrene
Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:55 pm
#65
... You're making it sound like I've done no research, spent no time on TC5 and this is simply untrue. It is perfectly normal, and FINE to compare the two because THIS IS THE GAME WE PLAY, and THAT IS WHAT IT WILL BECOME. We are stepping off of the land and into a boat (with a few holes in it). We need a point of reference to understand what the hell is going on, and the game we play right now is that. Your opinions that "this is better" do not match mine of "this is terrible and needs to be thrown away with other horrible game ideas that SOE has thrust upon us in the past". I hate the CU because THIS IS NOT THE GAME I PAID FOR, THE GAME I HAVE SPENT THE PAST YEAR PAYING FOR, THE GAME I LOVE DEARLY. THAT is why I hate it. THAT is what turns me from SWG. THAT is what makes me doubt the future of the game. I played to experience the CU, dont put me in a category that I dont deserve to be in.
Btw, when I play on TC5, I usually see about 5-10 people in major cities crying about how it sucks, and maybe two or three saying "ohh new weapons! shiny!"
My feelings exactly. I wanted the game I've loved since I started in July 03 to be fixed. I didn't want garish cartoon icons, glowing rings poofing every time I mount or dismount, didnt want to see animated ghosts doing intimidate nor my E-11 shooting balls of neon green ectoplasm. this isnt an upgrade, its a new game, and quite possibly one I would not have purchased upon seeing it.
I'll stick it out. I think. But what's on TC5 is not the game I love. It may be a great game, but its not my game
On a positive note.. today playing around with a CDEF I had a moderate success that was... a moderate success. Im hoping it wasn't just a random accident, normally moderate success=near ruination.
Teofa, 12pt Master WS Valcyn
Message Edited by Ndrene on 04-04-2005 12:57 AM