Weaponsmith Archive

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Arrya wrote:

It has been well known what these unserialized tissues meant from the moment they first dropped - and the devs have choosen not to do anything, not even mention whether we should be using them. Many times there is a fine line between using the game mechanics to their fullest extent and "exploiting". The devs really do need to come forward in this situation and make things clear. Is the situation fair? Definitely not. Is it an exploit? The answer to that is a matter of opinion.

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Given that they've stated: 'Report it, and stop doing it.' I don't think they've left much room for opinion/interpretation. It's an exploit, everyone knew it at the time, or had second thoughts about it, and most people didn't care which is why so many exploited weapons hit the servers so quikcly afterwards.

The problem is that the Devs don't really take steps to fix these problems, so these problems linger on. As long as the odds of getting caught remain a crap-shoot, there will be cheaters.

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Eola wrote:

Given that they've stated: 'Report it, and stop doing it.' I don't think they've left much room for opinion/interpretation. It's an exploit, everyone knew it at the time, or had second thoughts about it, and most people didn't care which is why so many exploited weapons hit the servers so quikcly afterwards.

The problem is that the Devs don't really take steps to fix these problems, so these problems linger on. As long as the odds of getting caught remain a crap-shoot, there will be cheaters.

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I think the argument Arsenal is trying to make here is that it was not obvious if it would be considered an exploit because it was still krayt tissue. You still had to make a schematic with it. You still had to put tissue in a factory with other components to get krayt power handlers out of that factory. The only marginally ambiguous thing about it is that lesser tissues (say +30s) can be upgraded to something better via this process. If you had a blank +30 schematic, would it really be that big of a deal? It would, at best, save you a few tissues here and there over time.

The exploited weapons to which you refer -- to my knowledge -- were not crafted using this process, but via a different exploit whereby you could get krayt stats on a power handler WITHOUT using krayt tissue. That sort of thing is clearly an exploit. But what we have in this instance is legitimately harvested tissue being used in legitimate factories to make krayt power handlers. It is not the fault of the fledgling weaponsmith that these tissues had no serial numbers. I am forced to wonder if there are people still carrying these schematics that don't see enough krayt tissue to realize that what they have is an anomaly... and because of that, they risk censure for an "exploit" that has never been clearly defined until now.

Obviously with Taurin's response above, the matter has been properly addressed. But it's been something like four months since these serial-less tissues appeared. There is no doubt in my mind that there are individuals using these schematics still that do not know what they are doing is now considered an exploit... and they don't know that.