Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: How is it possible to make one of these (link inside)?
Message Edited by Wookiee-Combat-Medic on 10-29-2005 09:40 AM
Summerflame wrote:
The link has been removed from this post so I cant comment myself, but some very respected Weaponsmiths has said this was exploited and their words are good enough for me and should be good enough for the OP.
For those of you descriebing how to exploit weapons like this could I please ask you to edit your posts as there is no reason to spread the info further.
Thanks
The OP has put it back I think - if not I have a copy I can imagedump if you need
laodamas wrote:
Adefo-Oami wrote:
What if there was a critical assembly when using high damage bones?
To get this Hammer even with a critical assembly and high end bones is still impossible. It would require about 30 exp. points. Plus there is no way possible to SAC cap a Hammer with Acklay bone.
You could have perfect resources, -14 SAC cubes, +50 Max Damage Solidifying Agents, a Critical Assembly and an infinate # of experimentation points and you wouldn't get those stats.
There is absolutely no way of capping the SAC AND the damage. You can do one or the other, but not both. Using Acklay bones and say, 20 experimentation points (enough to max damage and the SAC) could get you damage totals like that, but the SAC would be 95. A Power Hammer with no SAC modifier on the component assembles to 127 SAC, I believe. With the Effeciency line maxed to 100%, you're only going to drop the SAC about 32 points. So you'd still be well off the SAC cap. And that's with perfect resources, which this power hammer (based on the condition) didn't have.
And using the Geonosian Reinforcement core component to get the Power Hammer for a lower SAC assembly leaves the min and max damage very low (compared to acklay bones). I believe that experimenting damage to 100% will get a min of 504 or so. And let's say you experimented the component for damage (in which case the SAC would be crap) and add an extra 10 or so points to the min and max damage (its around 1pt to each per point of experimentation) that would leave the final min damage at 514 or so. And with the 4% damage slice these power hammers seem to have you're not even to 550, much less the578 min this one shows.
Also take a look at the ratio of the min vs the max damage. The min is over half as much as the max, whereas its usually in the mid to upper 40%'s. I assume most everyone can figure out what item can be applied to a weapon which gives the min damage a seeminly larger increase compared to the max damage (in terms of a % of the original total).
-Hellfire- wrote:
In every server transfer the weapon creators name is removed. As anyone who has ever transfered every items creater s gone. In this weapon the creator is still there. This means in no way was the weapno transfered with pups. This is why the CSR gave the weapon back after confiscating it.
so, even if it wasnt server transferred, it was still exploited. no difference.
-apeist
Wookiee-Combat-Medic wrote:
y moan its 1 weapon not as thow he can put the ws out ov bussness god iv got more cash then i know what to do with.
Message Edited by Wookiee-Combat-Medic on 10-29-2005 09:40 AM
your not narrow minded at all
/sarcasmoff
-apeist
Adefo-Oami wrote:
Just FYI
A csr looked at the weapon, and it was returned.
www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=331179
Message Edited by Adefo-Oami on 10-28-2005 11:30 PM
1. a similar thing happened on tarquinas, where a person ran a test to see if the csr's were competent. he had a gun he had exploited himself, and reported it and gave it to a csr to look at. csr said everything was ok and gave it back. csrs know NOTHING ABOUT THIS GAME. NOTHING.
2. that csr is a piece of sh** chump. If anyone intentionally harrassed (more than once)me and i was a csr i would perma ban their accounts and delete the hammer.
3. that proves that the LAW guys are serious freaking whiners who simply want to be "l33t" in swg. sad f***ing lives if you ask me... pathetic. guess they have to make up for not having skill with some uber weapons.
-apeist
Akuma-Paragon wrote:
-Hellfire- wrote:
In every server transfer the weapon creators name is removed. As anyone who has ever transfered every items creater s gone. In this weapon the creator is still there. This means in no way was the weapno transfered with pups. This is why the CSR gave the weapon back after confiscating it.
so, even if it wasnt server transferred, it was still exploited. no difference.
-apeist
Akuma-Paragon wrote:
Adefo-Oami wrote:
Just FYI
www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=331179
Message Edited by Adefo-Oami on 10-28-2005 11:30 PM
1. a similar thing happened on tarquinas, where a person ran a test to see if the csr's were competent. he had a gun he had exploited himself, and reported it and gave it to a csr to look at. csr said everything was ok and gave it back. csrs know NOTHING ABOUT THIS GAME. NOTHING.2. that csr is a piece of sh** chump. If anyone intentionally harrassed (more than once)me and i was a csr i would perma ban their accounts and delete the hammer.
3. that proves that the LAW guys are serious freaking whiners who simply want to be "l33t" in swg. sad f***ing lives if you ask me... pathetic. guess they have to make up for not having skill with some uber weapons.
-apeist
lol don't blame that on a LAW guy it wasn't even a LAW guy that had that happen too lol.
Message Edited by DarkBShadow on 10-31-2005 07:34 AM
Master Swordman Forever ~ Pve wh0r3 
my other sig is a Corovette. 
DarkBShadow wrote:
there is 2 ways to explote weapons.
Please remove the ways to exploit the weapons from your post 
If you could PM me how Option 1 is carried out I willl add it to the collection of exploits I am sending the devs. Thank you
Well TBH not knowing howthe exploit is done just means I may unwittingly do it, or is it a case of, if u can do it you definately know u are exploiting? Idnt want to know how to do it, i just want to know if it is something i could do without realising that it is an exploit?
And on another note, why do non WS allways ALLWAYS think they know more about crafting weapons than us, who have been making weapons for 2 years or more, ppl who dnt understand hard caps allways seem to say *well he must have got an amazing* or *maybe it was with enchanted loot made from the skin of a gorax tooth*, hard caps are hard caps, there is only one way to beat them and that is cheating, something I will never do
If I see one of these weapons or am asked to make one I will report it ASAP, im sure nothing is done now, but when thousands of bug reports and complaints are filled the Devs will have to sit up and take notice........i hope
Summerflame wrote:
DarkBShadow wrote:
there is 2 ways to explote weapons.
Please remove the ways to exploit the weapons from your postIf you could PM me how Option 1 is carried out I willl add it to the collection of exploits I am sending the devs. Thank you
'Collection' is about right.
Anyone else notice how exploited weapons like this PH are popping up all over the place now? Do they get removed? No. Do the exploits get fixed? No. Even the exploits that have been around for a while aren't getting fixed.