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Thread: Attn: Mor Dan What's the deal with Weapons made with Scopes

scooter1300
Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:16 am
#27






Hawkmoon74 wrote:

Got it....thanks.


So...


1st fix=loot drops...(No ETA on this yet though, right?)


Yes


2nd Fix = everything else that dropped or was created before the loot drop fix, right ?


Not exactly. The loot won't be "fixed" bust after it is used to craft, a logout and login will fix the weapon.






Thats how i read it.




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Mor-Dan
Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:34 am
#28



scooter1300 wrote:


Hawkmoon74 wrote:

Got it....thanks.

So...

1st fix=loot drops...(No ETA on this yet though, right?)

Yes

2nd Fix = everything else that dropped or was created before the loot drop fix, right ?

Not exactly. The loot won't be "fixed" bust after it is used to craft, a logout and login will fix the weapon.



Thats how i read it.






that's correct. and no, there is no ETA on patch 1 or 2...



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Summerflame
Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:20 pm
#29

So let me get this straight. Every stock and scope that is looted before this fix (whenever it goes live) will remain broken forever?


But if I use them in a weapon now, the weapons damage type will be convered to the right damage typè?


So I should use up all the components now, cause when this fix goes through they wil forever remain worthless?


Am I reading that right?


Cause that seems kinda low taht they are not going to convert the stuff that has been dropping.


I might be reading it wrong, its pretty early here and I havent slept much


Care to clarify even further for the dense people like me





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scooter1300
Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:42 pm
#30






Summerflame wrote:

So let me get this straight. Every stock and scope that is looted before this fix (whenever it goes live) will remain broken forever?


They will remain broken, once you craft a weapon it will have broken stats. After a logout/login they will change to what they are supposed to be. Course you will have to wait till the second fix for this to happen. First fix will fix the drops, second fix will fix broken weapons.


But if I use them in a weapon now, the weapons damage type will be convered to the right damage typè?


If you use them now you will have to wait until the secondfix goes in for them to convert. If you use them after the first fix, you'll still have to wait till the second fix, for them to convert.


So I should use up all the components now, cause when this fix goes through they wil forever remain worthless?


Read the above.


Am I reading that right?


Cause that seems kinda low taht they are not going to convert the stuff that has been dropping.


I might be reading it wrong, its pretty early here and I havent slept much


Care to clarify even further for the dense people like me








Hope that helped.



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Summerflame
Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:47 pm
#31






scooter1300 wrote:





Summerflame wrote:

So let me get this straight. Every stock and scope that is looted before this fix (whenever it goes live) will remain broken forever?


They will remain broken, once you craft a weapon it will have broken stats. After a logout/login they will change to what they are supposed to be. Course you will have to wait till the second fix for this to happen. First fix will fix the drops, second fix will fix broken weapons.


But if I use them in a weapon now, the weapons damage type will be convered to the right damage typè?


If you use them now you will have to wait until the secondfix goes in for them to convert. If you use them after the first fix, you'll still have to wait till the second fix, for them to convert.


So I should use up all the components now, cause when this fix goes through they wil forever remain worthless?


Read the above.


Am I reading that right?


Cause that seems kinda low taht they are not going to convert the stuff that has been dropping.


I might be reading it wrong, its pretty early here and I havent slept much


Care to clarify even further for the dense people like me








Hope that helped.






Thx I guess I just couldnt believe that they wouldnt fix the ones that has dropped allready.


/sigh


Okay back to explaining this to the costumers then I guess


Good thing that they will be converted if used in weapons thou, just seems like a lazy solution tbh, but then again I dont know much about coding and it might be a bigger problem than it seems


Thanks for clearifying





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CorenLanra
Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:18 pm
#32

I crafted an FWG5 Featherweight with Reinf Casings and a new Looted Scope, I told the customer that it would come out Energy dmg but he said he would chance it because he saw a post saying that they still worked. Anyway, it did come out Energy dmg but in a test duel which I witnessed the gun did appear to work properly. I asked him when the scopes were looted, and he said within the past 3 days.



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Summerflame
Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:23 pm
#33






CorenLanra wrote:
I crafted an FWG5 Featherweight with Reinf Casings and a new Looted Scope, I told the customer that it would come out Energy dmg but he said he would chance it because he saw a post saying that they still worked. Anyway, it did come out Energy dmg but in a test duel which I witnessed the gun did appear to work properly. I asked him when the scopes were looted, and he said within the past 3 days.





To the best of my knowledge only the weapons turned into blast are bugged (meaning they do 1 damage) The others just ahve their dam type turned to energy, but since that damage type exists it still works.


Still Id prefer kinetic weapon as kinetic cause BH likes them because they shoot through PSG





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Kahn04
Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:34 pm
#34

This issue needs to be addressed asap. I'm getting customers telling me that CSRs can't help them w/this blast damage issue and they're asking for refunds on all of these elite weapons. This is a severe problem; they put in the scopes, they should damn well work...
scooter1300
Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:06 pm
#35






Kahn04 wrote:
This issue needs to be addressed asap. I'm getting customers telling me that CSRs can't help them w/this blast damage issue and they're asking for refunds on all of these elite weapons. This is a severe problem; they put in the scopes, they should damn well work...





If the weapon should be kinetic, it will switch to energy. It's still a useable gun, just can be effected by PSG's. If the weapon should be Energy, it will switch to blast. Meaning it's a hunk until the fix goes in.


Yes i talked to a CSR about it in chat for an hour. Trying to figure out any possible fix, apparently there isn't one. It'll just be a waiting game, and hopefully a short one.





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OrizCore
Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:40 pm
#36







Blixtev wrote:

Fixed this issue this morning, while in there I found the reasonthis extended to most looted components. This fix should be out on Test soon and should take care of all new loot drops. It will take some time however to get the code written to fix up all existing broken weapons. We should be able to get all the validation code done correctly so a weapon will re validate itself every time you login. Thisshould remove any broken weaponsthat have been made Post CU, and or broken drops. This however is still a few publishes out and has a high impact value, so do not want to rush it.





This is great news, our devs are working hard lately and gettin stuff done!



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SgtSixpack
Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:05 pm
#37

Now the devs just need to rebalance krayt loot against BH npc loot. Just cause BH whine the loudest doesnt mean they should get special treatment, and be able to get loot unattainable by other proffessions. Also rebalance the power hammer standard stats so that post cu acklay power hammers dont become 20k bazaar material.



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J-J
Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:22 pm
#38






CorenLanra wrote:
I crafted an FWG5 Featherweight with Reinf Casings and a new Looted Scope, I told the customer that it would come out Energy dmg but he said he would chance it because he saw a post saying that they still worked. Anyway, it did come out Energy dmg but in a test duel which I witnessed the gun did appear to work properly. I asked him when the scopes were looted, and he said within the past 3 days.



i have crafted high capacity scatters and also Featherweights with casings/cells and scopes then they all work fine, the only ones i have had trouble with are the Advan Laser Rifles which turned out to be balst damage ... like the NSEL i might add!




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SgtSixpack
Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:34 pm
#39




J-J wrote:



CorenLanra wrote: I crafted an FWG5 Featherweight with Reinf Casings and a new Looted Scope, I told the customer that it would come out Energy dmg but he said he would chance it because he saw a post saying that they still worked. Anyway, it did come out Energy dmg but in a test duel which I witnessed the gun did appear to work properly. I asked him when the scopes were looted, and he said within the past 3 days.


i have crafted high capacity scatters and also Featherweights with casings/cells and scopes then they all work fine, the only ones i have had trouble with are the Advan Laser Rifles which turned out to be balst damage ... like the NSEL i might add!




fgw5, scatter, czerka are all kinetic damage weapons and will come out energy with one looted component. As a test I made a czerka carb with a [looted] scope and stock (standard APFM) and it came out blast damage.






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