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Thread: C12 Grenade Pricing

StrandedonEarth
Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:09 pm
#27

30k C12's, 60k thermals, 75-90k ImpDets, depending on the steel. 70k for protons when someone asks, since they don't require as much steel as the Imps.


Sure, making ImpDets at 50k/crate is fine when you mine all your own resources, but once your stockpile runs out and you have to buy resources because nothing is spawning, and then have to run all over the galaxy to find what you need, then you'll find you need to raise prices.


I look at the prices on the other servers and think 'wow!' but that's the other servers.


As for selling schematics, I've sold 1 or 2, although what I usually sell is a 'kit' with the resources, along with the schems (which makes for better quality than the resources amateurs amass). Mostly because my factories are too busy to make the order in a reasonable time, so they get their order faster if they use their own factories. (which I have included as part of the kit sometimes.)



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XobNoics
Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:52 pm
#28






BruSwillis wrote:

My vendors would be empty no matter what the price, the sales dont slow because you charge more. I could charge 80k per crate and earn more money, but 8 cpu is more than a fair mark up, I earn and my customers get a great nade at a great price. I sell about40-50 crates per night and 80-100 C12's every night and my factories are working non stop.
I use the best resourses when they spawn, no one pays 25 cpu for in shift resourses so thats a stupid comment.


Wether it's greed or not, im happy with 8cpu, some of you are happy with charging over 100k per crate and to me thats rediculous.


I've obviously struck a nerve here and Im laughing my ass off.






OK, that's why you charge only 50k a crate because the best current spawn of resources might be junk. Your grenades may not be the best quality, but they will do their job for grinding.


Looks like someone struck your nerve too sinceyou have to degrade someone's comment. lol



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SeaRaptor
Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:26 pm
#29


Folks, please try to keep petty bickering overpricing to your galaxy'strade forums. It is useless to try and compare pricing across servers, not to mention individual businesses. Everyone has a different business model, different expenses, and different goals. There is no right or wrong pricing in Galaxies; that is the beauty of a true free-market economy.


If you want to make suggestions to the original poster about what you charge, that's fine, but if the trolling and name calling continues, I'll ask the mods to yank this thread. It has no place in this forum.


Thanks.



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XobNoics
Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:36 pm
#30






SeaRaptor wrote:


Folks, please try to keep petty bickering overpricing to your galaxy'strade forums. It is useless to try and compare pricing across servers, not to mention individual businesses. Everyone has a different business model, different expenses, and different goals. There is no right or wrong pricing in Galaxies; that is the beauty of a true free-market economy.


If you want to make suggestions to the original poster about what you charge, that's fine, but if the trolling and name calling continues, I'll ask the mods to yank this thread. It has no place in this forum.


Thanks.




Exactly... thank you.



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Vade_WS
Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:51 pm
#31

/cheer for SeaRaptor




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weaponmaster88
Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:59 pm
#32






BruSwillis wrote:





weaponmaster88 wrote:

i think 50k for imp dets is just ridiculous. i put up 40 crates of imp dets for 80k and they were bought off my vendor as i was stocking them... all 40k crates.... now it takes a good week to make them and they all sold in 5 minutes. i then up'd the price to 90k a crate for my next batch and they all sold within 20 minutes. i'm now working on my 3rd batch and they are going up to 100k for the sole reason of i wanted to keep my vendor stocked and its impossible if they all sell in the first day and it takes a week to make more.







I also think it's rediculous that you cant even spell grenades right in your sig.


and your excuse that you cant keep up with demand so you raise your prices is stupid. So you are going to charge people more because you dont want them sold as quick? No, you realise the damand is great so you are able to charge more for the same product and get away with it, that is the definition of greed.






humm well thanks for pointing that out... i guess thats what i get for writing my sig a 3am. never could spell anyway.



and about raising my prices, i don't know what other people sell them for, but it must be under market if i sell every crate in 5 minutes. thats the only reason i raised the prices. customers are only happy when there are full vendors. i know i used to be a customer. and you can never keep them stocked for way under prices. i don't really care how much profit i make, i have everything i need. but your entitled to your own opinion and i don't want to get into an argument. i try to be fair and nice to everyone i play with i just want a good reputation.





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BruSwillis
Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:09 am
#33

There is ALWAYS a high sr + OQ steel within weeks of each other. Its not hard to stockpile good steel and reactive gas when its in shift to get you through the few weeks when its not in shift.


The difference is, I've been making nades from when I hit Master, Oct '03 and kept a good stock for Commandos and have managed my 'nade resourses well, allways keeping very good stuff for 'nades for the demand. My prices have allways been as they are today and yes the demand now with FS grinders is massive. Could I capitalise? Of course I could but Im not as I have a set price for my stock and I keep to it. I have never raised my prices, ever, I have only ever lowered tham.


If my vendors are empty of 'nades, I get more factories running componants to keep up with demand. Dealing with demand isnt raising prices, it's upping production.


My business ethics are obviously different to you lot.


And by the way, Im not bothered about people charging 60-80k per crate for Imp Dets, thats more than I charge but is still what I would conceive buyers to call "reasonable" but there's people charging 150-200k for a crate of 25 Imp Dets. That is just pure grred and to me, an unjustifiable price.






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Muzz
Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:13 am
#34








BruSwillis wrote:


I also think it's rediculous that you cant even spell grenades right in your sig.





Oh, sweet irony




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Giamai
Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:33 am
#35






BruSwillis wrote:

There is ALWAYS a high sr + OQ steel within weeks of each other. Its not hard to stockpile good steel and reactive gas when its in shift to get you through the few weeks when its not in shift.


The difference is, I've been making nades from when I hit Master, Oct '03 and kept a good stock for Commandos and have managed my 'nade resourses well, allways keeping very good stuff for 'nades for the demand. My prices have allways been as they are today and yes the demand now with FS grinders is massive. Could I capitalise? Of course I could but Im not as I have a set price for my stock and I keep to it. I have never raised my prices, ever, I have only ever lowered tham.


If my vendors are empty of 'nades, I get more factories running componants to keep up with demand. Dealing with demand isnt raising prices, it's upping production.


My business ethics are obviously different to you lot.


And by the way, Im not bothered about people charging 60-80k per crate for Imp Dets, thats more than I charge but is still what I would conceive buyers to call "reasonable" but there's people charging 150-200k for a crate of 25 Imp Dets. That is just pure grred and to me, an unjustifiable price.







this only works to a certain degree...not everyone has the same number of lots to work with. with 5 factories running now, i'm better at keeping up but to a certain point buttheni can't do more. in order to supply those factories i also have to devote lots to harvesters.


the fact remains that if i go too low on cost per crate, i either have lost business due to empty vendors and/or i lose my crates to resellers which only serves to drive prices on the server up more.


its not about ethics, its about the realities of the limits and competition inherent in the game. not every pricing decision is simply black or white, greedy or generous. some of it is simply about being in the game itself, and being seen by the public as a steady supplier of all things people ask for.





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XobNoics
Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:35 am
#36

High does not equal top quality. How high? Top 10? Top 5? Top 3? I don't use any resources out of the top 4 for any of my weapons (almost all are top 1 and 2, only a handful are 3 and 4). Sorry, but "good" reactive gas hasn't spawned on the server in quite a while. Also, please keep in mind that not all WS's can drop 10+ harvesterson a spawn to stockpile resources as lots go into factories and houses. I have access to 75 dynamic harvesters and I had a hard time trying to split them up withmultiple shifts of high qualityresources.


Not sure if you're familiar with economics but supply and demand is the key. As more people demand your product, you will have to raise prices to equilibrium. Upping the production will help as you flood the market with products, but you are still not at equilibrium as only an increase in price will allow this.


It's not business ethics, it's supply and demand... the two most basic laws of economics.



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BruSwillis
Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:34 am
#37






weaponmaster88 wrote:



and about raising my prices, i don't know what other people sell them for, but it must be under market if i sell every crate in 5 minutes. thats the only reason i raised the prices. customers are only happy when there are full vendors. i know i used to be a customer. and you can never keep them stocked for way under prices. i don't really care how much profit i make, i have everything i need. but your entitled to your own opinion and i don't want to get into an argument. i try to be fair and nice to everyone i play with i just want a good reputation.







Well I have to say, I have got my reputation for selling my weapons at a fair price and yes I sell out of 'nades very fast because people know I do not rip them off as others are doing on my server. Yes people come too late and sometimes find no nades on the vendor but they soon email me to ask when I am planning to restock and those customers get an email as I restock. I have never knowingly lost customers because I am out of stock, I have known them to shop elsewhere to tide them over till i restock, but never lost one yet.


but then again, I have good relationship with my customers.






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happyheadhunter
Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:12 pm
#38

BruSwillis...damn that's good



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