Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: C12 Grenade Pricing
EdOWar wrote:
BruSwillis wrote:
There's the difference. I dont rip people off for personal gain. Yes I make credits at those prices, no im not greedy.
jefdenbeffer wrote:
BruSwillis wrote:
lo l@ the prices of Imp Dets!!
20k - C12's crate 25
50k - Imp dets crate of 25
At your prices for imp detonators it's not worth factory and resource time, maybe close if you use grinding resources which I don't.
Nothing stays on vendor for longer than 3 weeks and I have 200 crates of advanced grenades rolling out of factories every week or a bit more when it's imperial detonators.
Think I've made around 30 million a week on grenades since mid october.
LOL, what, you rip people off for fun? But seriously, I hate these pious types who say "they aren't greedy". My ass you aren't greedy. Hell, you make a profit don't you? If you make a profit, even a tiny profit, then you're greedy. If you've got clothes on your back, credits in your pocket and a house to store all your junk...guess what?...you're greedy.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
I got accused of being greedy tonight. A few days ago I was asked to make some grenade (and component) schematics for someone who provided all the resources, ostensibly for grinding. This I did free of charge. Turns out the person I made them for was alsoselling crates of grenades outside Coro SP. Now, maybe this makes me greedy but I objected to this. If we all did this sort of thing there'd be no need for anyone to buy off a crafter, we could all just take the resources along and get our own schems made. Maybe I over-reacted, I don't know.
C12s = 35k per crate
Thermals = 100k per crate
These are the only grenades I make. Those prices seem a bit high compared to some others here but they fly off my vendor, especially at village phase change and Thermals especially are a real pain to craft.
Message Edited by Muzz on 02-23-2005 11:01 PM
BruSwillis wrote:
EdOWar wrote:
I hate these pious types who say "they aren't greedy". My ass you aren't greedy. Hell, you make a profit don't you? If you make a profit, even a tiny profit, then you're greedy. If you've got clothes on your back, credits in your pocket and a house to store all your junk...guess what?...you're greedy.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
must.... not..... feed.... the.. troll......
EdOWar wrote:
Well, call me a troll if it makes you feel better. But I see this argument a lot in economics discussions on these forums. When someone makes the "greedy" accusation, all I see is "I'm not smart enough to come up with a better argument in support of my position, so I'm just going to call everyone who disagrees with me a greedy bastich".
Certainly you can come up with a better justification for your pricing on grenades, other than "you're just greedy". How about this: "the price I charge for grenades is what I think is fair and worthwhile, and who are you to say it isn't". Much more effective, IMO.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
I charge 50k for a crate of 25 Imp Dets, others here are charging150-200% more for the same product. If I can sell them for 50k, then how can 200k be justified without it being greed?
I love how you have accused the cheapest of greed and not the most expensive. You posted for a reaction and you are hostile, thats being a troll. I will no longer feed you.
The only one trolling here is YOU. You're insulting everyone here and insisting that they're ripping people off. Honestly, if you had a shop people actually knew about, and sold C12s for 20k, they would be gone in no more than 5 minutes. Now excuse me for saying so, but that is just incredibly stupid. The demand for these items is HUGE, so why wouldnt you change your price to reflect the demand for them? You make yourself sound like some saint to the consumer... does this mean you sell base krayt enhanced weapons for 10k? Do you sell weapons at cost? I dont think so. You've got 12 points, you've made quite a bit of money, and I dont think it's from selling items for cheap. You're also making an assumption that the economy on eclipse is the same as the rest of the servers... think again
BruSwillis wrote:
EdOWar wrote:
Well, call me a troll if it makes you feel better. But I see this argument a lot in economics discussions on these forums. When someone makes the "greedy" accusation, all I see is "I'm not smart enough to come up with a better argument in support of my position, so I'm just going to call everyone who disagrees with me a greedy bastich".
Certainly you can come up with a better justification for your pricing on grenades, other than "you're just greedy". How about this: "the price I charge for grenades is what I think is fair and worthwhile, and who are you to say it isn't". Much more effective, IMO.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
I charge 50k for a crate of 25 Imp Dets, others here are charging150-200% more for the same product. If I can sell them for 50k, then how can 200k be justified without it being greed?
I love how you have accused the cheapest of greed and not the most expensive. You posted for a reaction and you are hostile, thats being a troll. I will no longer feed you.
SlaserX wrote:
The only one trolling here is YOU. You're insulting everyone here and insisting that they're ripping people off. Honestly, if you had a shop people actually knew about, and sold C12s for 20k, they would be gone in no more than 5 minutes. Now excuse me for saying so, but that is just incredibly stupid. The demand for these items is HUGE, so why wouldnt you change your price to reflect the demand for them? You make yourself sound like some saint to the consumer... does this mean you sell base krayt enhanced weapons for 10k? Do you sell weapons at cost? I dont think so. You've got 12 points, you've made quite a bit of money, and I dont think it's from selling items for cheap. You're also making an assumption that the economy on eclipse is the same as the rest of the servers... think again
BruSwillis wrote:
EdOWar wrote:
Well, call me a troll if it makes you feel better. But I see this argument a lot in economics discussions on these forums. When someone makes the "greedy" accusation, all I see is "I'm not smart enough to come up with a better argument in support of my position, so I'm just going to call everyone who disagrees with me a greedy bastich".
Certainly you can come up with a better justification for your pricing on grenades, other than "you're just greedy". How about this: "the price I charge for grenades is what I think is fair and worthwhile, and who are you to say it isn't". Much more effective, IMO.
Slim Vargo, Corbantis
I charge 50k for a crate of 25 Imp Dets, others here are charging150-200% more for the same product. If I can sell them for 50k, then how can 200k be justified without it being greed?
I love how you have accused the cheapest of greed and not the most expensive. You posted for a reaction and you are hostile, thats being a troll. I will no longer feed you.
25k for C22s
50k for Thermals
60k for Protons
I only do Imperials on special order and for 60k since they are soo expensive to make.
My prices are based on the cost of my resources used plus overhead and markup. And they sell like crazy.
I use the best resourses when they spawn, no one pays 25 cpu for in shift resourses so thats a stupid comment.
weaponmaster88 wrote:
i think 50k for imp dets is just ridiculous. i put up 40 crates of imp dets for 80k and they were bought off my vendor as i was stocking them... all 40k crates.... now it takes a good week to make them and they all sold in 5 minutes. i then up'd the price to 90k a crate for my next batch and they all sold within 20 minutes. i'm now working on my 3rd batch and they are going up to 100k for the sole reason of i wanted to keep my vendor stocked and its impossible if they all sell in the first day and it takes a week to make more.
I also think it's rediculous that you cant even spell grenades right in your sig.
and your excuse that you cant keep up with demand so you raise your prices is stupid. So you are going to charge people more because you dont want them sold as quick? No, you realise the damand is great so you are able to charge more for the same product and get away with it, that is the definition of greed.
BruSwillis wrote:
weaponmaster88 wrote:
i think 50k for imp dets is just ridiculous. i put up 40 crates of imp dets for 80k and they were bought off my vendor as i was stocking them... all 40k crates.... now it takes a good week to make them and they all sold in 5 minutes. i then up'd the price to 90k a crate for my next batch and they all sold within 20 minutes. i'm now working on my 3rd batch and they are going up to 100k for the sole reason of i wanted to keep my vendor stocked and its impossible if they all sell in the first day and it takes a week to make more.
I also think it's rediculous that you cant even spell grenades right in your sig.
and your excuse that you cant keep up with demand so you raise your prices is stupid. So you are going to charge people more because you dont want them sold as quick? No, you realise the damand is great so you are able to charge more for the same product and get away with it, that is the definition of greed.
its not the definition of greed...there's some other consequences to undercutting all the other weaponsmiths on your server
if you are significantly cheaper than everyone else what happens?
2 things...1 your vendors are always empty which customers will always see. the last thing you want is a rep for having empty vendors. much of my business is word of mouth, i want people telling their friends, yeah i know where you can find some nades lemme send you a wp. that won't happen if i can't keep up with demand. raising prices has allowed that for me. you can call it greed if you want but unhappy customers are not repeat business. go too low, and never have stock and you make no money, ever.
2 resellers will raid your vendors. its all well and good to say i'm charging 20k a crate forc12's and thinking you're being a nice guy but all you're really doing is helping someone else make 50k a crate. the only incentive to keep prices down and not be greedy is to be helping the enduser imo. going too low does the opposite.