Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: A Plea to the Community Stop the non-serial Exploit

CharPrime
Tue May 25, 2004 5:46 pm
#14

so if a weapon smith is selling crates of krayt weapons and lot of krayt weapons with the same serial number then they must be doing something funny



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ChilastraBH
Wed May 26, 2004 12:25 am
#15

I Agree
Devla_Alved
Wed May 26, 2004 2:33 am
#16

Confirmed that all drops from the Geonosian Caves last night had no serials on them, on Sunrunner Monday night.


Also a friend was out hunting Krayts and looted segments, scales and tissue. Guess what...no serials on these either.


Haven't checked the Geonosian stuff yet since then, I'm hoping the serials popped up after the server rebooted.


This is bad folks, real bad



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BoberFett
Wed May 26, 2004 9:06 am
#17

Somebody I ran into on the streets of Anchorhead last night showed me a couple of High Caliber Pistol Barrels and asked if I wanted to buy them. I noticed that one of them had no serial number. This problem seems to affect all loot.
Siymon
Wed May 26, 2004 9:53 am
#18

Good news. It seems to be fixed. I ran a test last night. I had serial-less white cubes and solidifying agents. I tried a few tests. I tried to make a geo sword core and a reinforcment core. The serial-less items did not even show up as valid items in the filter and wehn removingt he filter the items still could not put into the schematic. I then made a schematic with a serial cube and tried to make the run with the serial-less cube and did not work. I then stored 4 serial-less cubes in various ways. Vendor, self, back pack, house storage and in each case when I loged this morning they all has serials.



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SeaRaptor
Wed May 26, 2004 11:21 am
#19

Hrmn, maybe some positive movement on this, then. I sent Taurin, JustG, and Thunderheart the following PM this morning:







We weaponsmiths would really appreciate it if time was made to fix the exploit that allows unscrupulous smiths to mass-produce scythes and Geonosian pistols using unserialized Geonosian cubes.

Respectfully,
Felton Kel
Master Weaponsmith
Tempest






A few minutes ago, I got this back from JustG:







We have been working on it!






Not much more we can ask, I suppose.




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YamadaMan
Wed May 26, 2004 11:26 am
#20

wait for combat revamp
jk



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-Strife-
Wed May 26, 2004 3:33 pm
#21




Good News:


Patch 9 Notes Include:





ArjunThakur Wrote:


Crafting
  • Manufacturing schematics that were created with a generic item in a slot that required a serialized item will no longer be usable.
  • Generic items will no longer be able to be put into slots that require serialized components.




  • Source: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=371896


    Bad News:


    At best this is 3-4 weeks away. I have a feeling the value of white cubes and base krayt tissues will be rising significantly on everyones servers.


    So, like every other exploitable bugthat has made its way to Live servers, the impact of these will still be felt for months to come. So in the end, who really won?

    Message Edited by -Strife- on 05-26-2004 04:43 PM




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    Kershakk
    Wed May 26, 2004 6:20 pm
    #22






    Devla_Alved wrote:

    Got a response from CSR-ChrisG on this


    Unable to copy and paste from a ticket, but I'll quote a few of the highlights:


    "..within a very short time, the ability to do so (make schematics from non-serial items) will be removed with a mini-publish."


    "Unfortunately, we have not been given authorization to take action against those making such runs, forr which I am extremely sorry for."


    I'm hoping that with this mini-publish, that all items created from these schematics go poof. In doing so, the honest Smiths may actually start making some money again.


    /wave Strife







    I don't understand these people. On one hand it's deemed an exploit and a bannable offense, and then here we have another person saying it's something that they cannot take action for!


    I'd think it wouldn't be too hard to retrofix this problem. Given there are hard caps on how many of any given say, geo pistol there can be with the same serial (I've never heard of higher than 7 identical serialised cubes) - so therefore a maximum of 6 geo pistols can possibly exist with the same serial. Search database for all geonosian pistols, keeping track of each serial encountered. Should the count ever exceed 6 on any specific serial, either delete the extras - or delete them all as they had to be part of an exploit build. I think that would do the trick.


    Then of course, something destructive could always have the chance of doing wide damage ...


    [EDIT] Of course that may not work for Krayt tissued weapons. Oh well.

    Message Edited by Kershakk on 05-27-2004 12:21 PM

    Qui-Trang
    Wed May 26, 2004 8:46 pm
    #23


    Its not fair to the honest weaponsmiths who didnt exploit the tissue schematics and recently bought white serial numberless cubes like fish do on our server then call the kettle black

    SeaRaptor
    Thu May 27, 2004 6:07 am
    #24







    ArjunThakur Wrote:


    Crafting
  • Manufacturing schematics that were created with a generic item in a slot that required a serialized item will no longer be usable.
  • Generic items will no longer be able to be put into slots that require serialized components.




  • Also note that if you have any unserialized krayt tissue still lying around, you'd better throw it into a weapon before the next patch or you will probably lose it.






    Qui-Trang wrote:


    Its not fair to the honest weaponsmiths who didnt exploit the tissue schematics and recently bought white serial numberless cubes like fish do on our server then call the kettle black





    What's not fair, exactly? I don't follow your logic. It's not fair to people who just went out and bought unseralized cubes specifically so they could use this exploit?

    Message Edited by SeaRaptor on 05-27-2004 09:16 AM



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    Master Weaponsmith, FelKel LTD Weaponsmiths

    Old weaponsmiths never die, they buy a planet and retire in luxury.
    Now on MMORadio - Where Gamers ROCK!
    nojediiam
    Thu May 27, 2004 7:41 am
    #25






    -Strife- wrote:




    Good News:


    Patch 9 Notes Include:





    ArjunThakur Wrote:


    Crafting
  • Manufacturing schematics that were created with a generic item in a slot that required a serialized item will no longer be usable.
  • Generic items will no longer be able to be put into slots that require serialized components.




  • Source: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=371896


    Bad News:


    At best this is 3-4 weeks away. I have a feeling the value of white cubes and base krayt tissues will be rising significantly on everyones servers.


    So, like every other exploitable bugthat has made its way to Live servers, the impact of these will still be felt for months to come. So in the end, who really won?


    Message Edited by -Strife- on 05-26-2004 04:43 PM






    That crafting part is missing from THs post here:


    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=12553#M12553


    Any idea why?




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    Qui-Trang
    Thu May 27, 2004 8:23 am
    #26






    SeaRaptor wrote:









    Qui-Trang wrote:


    Its not fair to the honest weaponsmiths who didnt exploit the tissue schematics and recently bought white serial numberless cubes like fish do on our server then call the kettle black





    What's not fair, exactly? I don't follow your logic. It's not fair to people who just went out and bought unseralized cubes specifically so they could use this exploit?


    Message Edited by SeaRaptor on 05-27-2004 09:16 AM





    Let's break it down for Mr Fekel who cannot comprehend what he reads shall we?



    "Its not fair to the honest weaponsmiths who didnt exploit the tissue schematics and recently bought white serial numberless cubes like fish do on our server then call the kettle black"




    It is not fair to honest weaponsmiths...... WHO DIDNT exploit tissue schematics AND recently bought white serial numberless cubes (Such as yourself)





    Again People mis-quote and twist words common tactic among those whoto try and cover up exploiting while he calling the kettle black !






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