Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: DE-10 Barrels
Actairr
Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:26 pm
#14
I didnt think they do, but if he got one i guess they do. Loot in this game is 'random', BUT as it is computer generated there is some kind of method. If you notice you can go to dath and kill nightsisters for a full buff and get hardly any loot some days, but others you can get loads. Well if you are having good luck with loot it will be more likely that you get a barrel or schem. I have a question for you all now, particularly jpshaff01. Do the Death watch wraiths and ghosts that spawn at the tree village by 0,0 drop any loot at all, or should i move on to something else? They are tough to kill and i dont want to waste my time killing them if there is no reward.
BaalVapula
Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:05 am
#15
Actairr wrote:
I didnt think they do, but if he got one i guess they do. Loot in this game is 'random', BUT as it is computer generated there is some kind of method. If you notice you can go to dath and kill nightsisters for a full buff and get hardly any loot some days, but others you can get loads. Well if you are having good luck with loot it will be more likely that you get a barrel or schem. I have a question for you all now, particularly jpshaff01. Do the Death watch wraiths and ghosts that spawn at the tree village by 0,0 drop any loot at all, or should i move on to something else? They are tough to kill and i dont want to waste my time killing them if there is no reward.
Got a few crystals off them.
Jpshaff01
Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:53 am
#16
Actairr wrote:
I didnt think they do, but if he got one i guess they do. Loot in this game is 'random', BUT as it is computer generated there is some kind of method. If you notice you can go to dath and kill nightsisters for a full buff and get hardly any loot some days, but others you can get loads. Well if you are having good luck with loot it will be more likely that you get a barrel or schem. I have a question for you all now, particularly jpshaff01. Do the Death watch wraiths and ghosts that spawn at the tree village by 0,0 drop any loot at all, or should i move on to something else? They are tough to kill and i dont want to waste my time killing them if there is no reward.
the first day that they were at 0,0 i killed alot of the sbd's and the wraiths, but we never looted anything off those and were looting stuff off the black sun's. So i havent killed them since.
Jkoku
Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:26 pm
#17
Just to spent a hour or so at 0-0 on endor, Again i killed only the henchmen, 1 st loot DE-10 sche!! then it all goes wrong 50% of the kills i couldnt loot? to far away or something like that.
Im heading back there today so i will report back ASAP
Jkoku
CaixCatab
Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:59 pm
#18
Yah, that's the problem with zero zero hunting. They're there because the server messed up, and once they're dead there's always a chance they'll continue to mess up. One of the reasons why I'd rather go the DWB itself.
Woodis
Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:23 am
#19
Okay lately I've been hearing rumors that the yellow titled DE-10 barrels are just as good as the white. I understand the logic of why we think yellow ones are better. I'm wondering if I missed out on some breaking news that they're all the same, or if it's been tested extensively enough that one came to the conclusion that they're close enough, or that the damage is not one of the stats affected.
Also, based on what we know and if yellow does indiciate better quality, then the white barrels should all have the same inherent stats, if it is actually a 'base' item.
- Woodis of Millenium
JoleneArcher
Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:26 am
#20
My DE-10 pistols with yellow barrels have always turned out better than those with white barrels. And those with white barrels are always having the same damage range here. 
Message Edited by JoleneArcher on 12-23-2004 04:27 PM
Woodis
Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:33 am
#21
Good, I'd like to hear from someone who made muliltiple guns from the same tissues, and used both types of barrels with the same tissues. Thinkingback, I did do this myself with some nice tissues, and was definetly complimented by damage on the yellow barrels, one with 5 extra damage from that of the white, and one with 17 extra damage. I guess this answers my own question, I just started to get curious again because so many people are saying there's no difference now, and these rumors are definetly new. If anyone else can confirm this that would be great! 
- Woodis
DigiDante
Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:36 am
#22
Usually anything with a yellow name is better then just with a white name.
Such as exceptional items, they usually have yellow names.
The thing with the barrels are that they have stats... just they're not visible. Yellow would be the rarer of the two color choices for barrels, and like anything else in this game, 90% of the time the stats on yellow items are better.
OB540
Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:01 pm
#23
De-10 #1 with a white barrel, 351 Max Damage
2 minutes later
De-10 #2 with a yellow barrel, 359 max Damage
Loriena
Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:31 pm
#25
I have made 5 DE-10 so far.
I just took a note of the maximum damage and took the krayt tissues out of the final calculation. These are the normalized maximum damage values for the DE-10 pistols I made:
White barrel: 263, 262
Yellow barrel: 331, 271, 281
So there is really a strong evidence for the white barrels to be "basic" ones.
Maybe people wanting to sell basic white barrels started the rumor. Someone also tried to convince me that white and yellow barrels have the same random damage range (wanting to sell white barrels). My research so far proves these rumors wrong and I have yet to increase the number of tests, but in my opinion nothing has changed and yellow barrels are still better than white ones.
I just took a note of the maximum damage and took the krayt tissues out of the final calculation. These are the normalized maximum damage values for the DE-10 pistols I made:
White barrel: 263, 262
Yellow barrel: 331, 271, 281
So there is really a strong evidence for the white barrels to be "basic" ones.
Maybe people wanting to sell basic white barrels started the rumor. Someone also tried to convince me that white and yellow barrels have the same random damage range (wanting to sell white barrels). My research so far proves these rumors wrong and I have yet to increase the number of tests, but in my opinion nothing has changed and yellow barrels are still better than white ones.
Message Edited by Loriena on 12-25-2004 08:37 PM
-Redux-
Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:43 pm
#26
OB540 wrote:
De-10 #1 with a white barrel, 351 Max Damage
2 minutes later
De-10 #2 with a yellow barrel, 359 max Damage
I used the same Krayt Power handlers
Ok...my experience is that yellow barrels always impart some sort of significant bonus, but not necessarily on the damage. Look at your other stats on the pistols. For example my last two DE-10's made with identical Krayt tissue handlers came out 323 max (white barrel) and 328 max (yellow barrel). The real difference was in the range mods. The white barrel with +23 at ideal. The yellow was +48 at ideal. That is significant and purely a result of the yellow barrel.
Yellow barrels are always better in some respects. Many times it falls in the range mods or speed, or both. I have often see a slight change in max damage, but it is the other mods that are more significant.