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shush mor-dan Didnt have the luxury of what was it, 300 max tissues?

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Mediocre wrote:

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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ShugFlurry wrote:
I've had offers of upto 20mil for this baby 188 tissues

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still doesn't top the Scatters i've made.

Revenge sold for 30mil
Pride sold for 30mil
Honour sold for 30mil
Heart sold for 35mil
Fury sold for 35mil



your eyes do not decieve you... those are all damage and SAC capped. priced per tissue, that rifle would have to be approaching about 90mil+. 120+ if you include the one that was burned for the schematic

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What were the stats on the tissues used Mor-Dan?

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300dmg

just to confirm, the Trandoshian rifle schematic is how many uses?

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Summerflame wrote:

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Tomper wrote:

Beautiful work folks!

Say, where does one get ahold of the schematic for the thrandosian hunting rifle? Avatar platform I take it, but more specifically?

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Medical Lock box at the avatar platform is the word

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I have a total of 5 schematic, but the Barrels are harder to find after something like 15 trips to the station only have 2 barrrels..... i will post stats on them before i make the rifle....wish me well.

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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Mediocre wrote:

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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ShugFlurry wrote:
I've had offers of upto 20mil for this baby 188 tissues

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still doesn't top the Scatters i've made.

Revenge sold for 30mil
Pride sold for 30mil
Honour sold for 30mil
Heart sold for 35mil
Fury sold for 35mil



your eyes do not decieve you... those are all damage and SAC capped. priced per tissue, that rifle would have to be approaching about 90mil+. 120+ if you include the one that was burned for the schematic

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What were the stats on the tissues used Mor-Dan?

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300dmg

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Nice, and were they looted pre-CU or post-CU?

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Mediocre wrote:

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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Mediocre wrote:

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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ShugFlurry wrote:
I've had offers of upto 20mil for this baby 188 tissues

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still doesn't top the Scatters i've made.

Revenge sold for 30mil
Pride sold for 30mil
Honour sold for 30mil
Heart sold for 35mil
Fury sold for 35mil



your eyes do not decieve you... those are all damage and SAC capped. priced per tissue, that rifle would have to be approaching about 90mil+. 120+ if you include the one that was burned for the schematic

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What were the stats on the tissues used Mor-Dan?

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300dmg

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Nice, and were they looted pre-CU or post-CU?

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pre CU tissue... there are from a set of 11 300dmg tissues. there will still be 3 more made (1 was a DL XT, and two others were made for the owner of the tissue).

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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ShugFlurry wrote:
I've had offers of upto 20mil for this baby 188 tissues

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still doesn't top the Scatters i've made.

Revenge sold for 30mil
Pride sold for 30mil
Honour sold for 30mil
Heart sold for 35mil
Fury sold for 35mil



your eyes do not decieve you... those are all damage and SAC capped. priced per tissue, that rifle would have to be approaching about 90mil+. 120+ if you include the one that was burned for the schematic

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325 min? a BH can't PvP with these.

lets have some math fun. i haven't seen better +dmg/+spd pups than +Dmg33%/+Spd6%. For this example I'll use these stats.

These would turn your scatters into a whopping, drum roll please: 325*1.33=432, (325*0.33)+948=1055, 432-1055. wow, i never seen such merciless murder.

If these H.C.Scatters were made effeciently, your damage range would be approximately 390-948. The same pup's and math brings us to: 519-1077.

87 difference on the min, 22 on the max. Factor in the damage multipliers and this could turn to a damage difference of 50-100. Only 12 less sac was achieved compared to barrels/handlers experimented to -9sac with the rest thrown to damage, giving 89 on combine, dump 9 pts to damage to max it or just missing to finish off by 3 to sac to hopefully knock 12 sac down. 77 sac is good enough with a kicker of +100action regen from blob candy.

I hope credits were your goal and not PvP effeciency.

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injektion wrote:

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Mor-Dan wrote:

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ShugFlurry wrote:
I've had offers of upto 20mil for this baby 188 tissues

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still doesn't top the Scatters i've made.

Revenge sold for 30mil
Pride sold for 30mil
Honour sold for 30mil
Heart sold for 35mil
Fury sold for 35mil



your eyes do not decieve you... those are all damage and SAC capped. priced per tissue, that rifle would have to be approaching about 90mil+. 120+ if you include the one that was burned for the schematic

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325 min? a BH can't PvP with these.

lets have some math fun. i haven't seen better +dmg/+spd pups than +Dmg33%/+Spd6%. For this example I'll use these stats.

These would turn your scatters into a whopping, drum roll please: 325*1.33=432, (325*0.33)+948=1055, 432-1055. wow, i never seen such merciless murder.

If these H.C.Scatters were made effeciently, your damage range would be approximately 390-948. The same pup's and math brings us to: 519-1077.

87 difference on the min, 22 on the max. Factor in the damage multipliers and this could turn to a damage difference of 50-100. Only 12 less sac was achieved compared to barrels/handlers experimented to -9sac with the rest thrown to damage, giving 89 on combine, dump 9 pts to damage to max it or just missing to finish off by 3 to sac to hopefully knock 12 sac down. 77 sac is good enough with a kicker of +100action regen from blob candy.

I hope credits were your goal and not PvP effeciency.

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your math is flawed. damage is comprised of Dmg + Special Multiplier + Accuracy Rating - Opponents Defense Rating = Total Damage Output. This starts at your Max Dmg number and is reduced according to how much more defense they have compared to your offense. having a SAC of 65 instead of 77 also benefits you by allowing you to shift your food and beverage focus. sure, blob candy is a low filling food, but it still takes up a space in your tree of products used while in PvP. many, many Jedi have died mercilessly at the end of these guns, and not fromthe exploitation of Last Ditch either. i get stories all the time about jedi who want to see the stats on the weapon they just got pistol whipped by.

and no, credit efficiency wasn't on my mind because i don't get the proceeds, the tissue owner does. i spoke, at length, with about 15 well known PvPers and asked them THEIR opinions about what makes a good gun, and this is what we came up with. this is what we made.

you need to allow for more than 3 points to get from 89 to 77, or you have to get all amazing successes, and that may still leave you at 78. the barrels and ABPH were put to -9 SAC.

so, as you can see, your wrong. go home and test your theories again. it might help to keep yourself read up on the damage formulas that actual PvPers are using, which i what i gave you at the top of my post. Min damage RARELY comes into play and no self respecting WS should ever make it their goal to "maximize" a stat that isn't even secondary in nature.

What were the stats on the Barrels you used in those rifles Shug and Irelph? And does anyone know what is poor/average/great stats for these barrels... there is one up on my servers boards right now and I'm debating whether to buy it, but I dont know what is considered a good barrel. Any info you guys have on this will be helpful

I am almost finished with mine...but could not find my best tissues. but will give you a run down on it when finihsed.