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Thread: T21s for 3k

o_rly
Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:06 pm
#14

Wow big deal, he's retiring, that means HE'S NOT GOING TO SELL ANY MORE WEAPONS AFTER HE RUNS OUT OF STOCK. It's not like he's advertising for himself, he probably just wants to clear stock so he can remove his vendors and stuff and go enjoy other parts of the game. Also, Ybagi, stop 1-starring every post that is in disagreement with you, people aren't going to start expecting T21's for 3k on Lowca.
Torael
Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:03 am
#15






Ybagi wrote:

I love it, the martyrs have arrived!


Of course you love crafting, so do I, can you make money selling for as low as 10 cpu, sure you can, but thats not my point, we are taking about less than 5 here.


Sure he is retiring and its a very nice thing to give your customers a goodbye present, but you know what, weaponsmiths get burnout all the time, I'll bet a smith retires every month on Lowca and its probably the same on most other servers, If everyone decided to dump on the market, it would have an effect, just most don't do this.


Just for your information I sell my T21's for 20k which is well below what most charge, this isn't a greedy smith issue.


Anyway, this is a game, anyone can play the game how they feel fit, and I can come here and post whatever monkey crap I feel like.


and o_rly, what the hell are you talking about? The whole problem was thathe is advertising, thanks for trolling, ass.







Seems to me that you're the ass. "The whole problem was that he is advertising"? **edit**, he's not allowed to advertise? Or is it that he's advertising his low prices? If that's so, well, then, I demand that you cease advertising because OMG 20k for a T21 that's so undercutting everyone!!! /rolleyes Puh-leez.


The server population is....what would you say. I'd say probably 5000 at least and that's likely an extremely, extremely low estimate. So whoopedoo, he sold off 50 T21's at 3k. Assuming 5000 people on the server, now one of every 100 people has a new T21 that will last them a little while until it randomly breaks ona repair.Flooding the market? No.


So, I still fail to see your issue. My own sales certainly haven't slowed down any.....hell, I just finished off a run of six thousand power handlers to start a full new run of weapons,including 400 T21's. Am I worried about not being able to sell those because he went and "dumped" _fifty_ at a low price? (Hint: The correct answer is no...they seem to be my fastest seller by a long shot.) My prices certainly are not quite as low as yours - my last run was 28k, and I'm going to bump that up to 30k on my new 405 maxes...no idea what I'll sell the 415 maxes at, yet, but it's still not an unreasonable price.



So. Yeah. Where's the problem here?




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Coronis
Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:26 am
#16






Ybagi wrote:

I love it, the martyrs have arrived!


Of course you love crafting, so do I, can you make money selling for as low as 10 cpu, sure you can, but thats not my point, we are taking about less than 5 here.


Sure he is retiring and its a very nice thing to give your customers a goodbye present, but you know what, weaponsmiths get burnout all the time, I'll bet a smith retires every month on Lowca and its probably the same on most other servers, If everyone decided to dump on the market, it would have an effect, just most don't do this.


Just for your information I sell my T21's for 20k which is well below what most charge, this isn't a greedy smith issue.


Anyway, this is a game, anyone can play the game how they feel fit, and I can come here and post whatever monkey crap I feel like.


and o_rly, what the hell are you talking about? The whole problem was thathe is advertising, thanks for trolling, ass.







I've never seen so much whining before. /cry


I think the fact that you've attacked him for just going about his business makes you the troll, Ybagi.
You don't like what he's doing? Tough **edit**. He can, he has, and others will too.




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Lurax
Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:11 pm
#17

lol


I'm sorry ybagi, but he doesn't owe you anything.



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Ybagi
Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:34 pm
#18

I'm really sorry this thread turned out like this.


This wasn't any sort of personal vendetta, money grubbing, help my business B.S.


It was just genuine concern over where I see the profession headed.


I have read a few theads in this forum about the same stuff; undercuting and lowering of prices.


It's not nessecary, I addressed this above; if he was moving so much volume, no need to lower prices or advertise seeing how he is closing anyway; but none of you bothered to address this, all we have here is a bunch of posturing and posing parrots.


I just hope everyone is aware of where this road leads, take a trip over to the architect forums, this is all they post about and it sucks.





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AldaronTavish
Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:50 pm
#19

Ever been to a going out of business sale? Prices are usually dropped as much as 70-80%.

The K-mart here in town went out of business, put everything on sale for over a month until all the stock was gone. Do you think it affected sales at Wal-Mart? Not by much since now Wal-Mart is the only store like that in town now.

IOW, short term it may affect your business...long term, you are still in business and he isn't.

As far as prices go, personally I see everyone shooting themselves in the foot. Looters want uber weapons but charge outrageous prices for the weaponsmiths to buy the needed components/skill tapes, thus prices for the weapons are higher than they need to be because of greed.



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Redguard
Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:28 am
#20

Well since you didnt add anything substantive to your post what the hell did you expect?


You just posted look at the link and wished you were an architect. So if thats not trolling then what is?




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SeaRaptor
Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:33 am
#21


Undercutting happens. Welcome to real life. Just like real life, what typically happens when someone grossly undercuts the competition is that they are unable to keep up with demand. They either end up raising their prices back to what they were, or people start shopping elsewhere. You'd be surprised how many people will pay extra cash for the promise of KNOWING the item they want will be on your shelf when they walk in your store.


Five stars for Kershakk for one of the best WS postsof all time.



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Gron_DM
Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:00 am
#22

you should be doing a happy dance that the listed WS above is retiring it means that new WS will have a chance to get a market share and better develop a customer base, corb just had one of our oldest WS retire, good guy too....as for pricing when isnt it argued i price at 50cpu and above for 2 reasons, so i dont get used as a reseller and because i spend alot of creds on getting the best resources for my wpns. If ppl would sell 1900 cd+oq phrik alum for 10cpu when it hasnt spawned in 9 months, yada yad insert other appropriate resources in here....then the WS market would stay in the 10 to 30 cpu range but as is most WS sell above that. -shrug-


PS i make more on my droids i make wpns cause im a wookiee and i like making good casters



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ChilastraBH
Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:21 am
#23

I dont think its a big deal, its not like he does that on a regular basis.
Merlis
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:49 am
#24






Wargfang wrote:


That aside...architects make a stack of cash.....




I'm assuming you've never tried your hand at architect... I've been an architect since about three months after launch and while my sales have experienced some great trends (hologrind), they have for the most part remained stable. I'll admit, I do well to support my spending habits, but its important to understand that while architects have the (ability) to make "stacks of cash", it often comes at a price.


To give you an idea, it is not uncommon for me to go through 500 walls per week sometimes. I cannot keep up with the demand for walls with the 40 lots I have from my 4 accounts as not only am I a master architect, but I'm also a master weaponsmith. Most of my resource mining is devoted to weaponsmith since obviously its easier for me to buy crap ore and other materials to make architecture components than it is to buy the highest quality weaponsmith resources. But that aside, because of the high demand, I have to "hire" others to either mine ore for me and sell at disgustingly low prices, or I buy the walls already assembled. When you're talking about paying 8K per wall, and going through 500 walls per week, thats 4 million credits. Granted, I'll make that back in no time, but it is not a cheap profession.


Its also unfortunate that architects can not spend 50cpu for a deed. If architects were allowed to charge the same as weaponsmiths, you'd be paying over a 1mil per heavy harvester deed. Ain't that some sheet.


Ah well, this weaponsmith that drew so much attention will be gone soon if he's not already, so all of these threads about him are really a non-issue.Lets just let him sell his junk and move on so we can **edit** about something else.







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